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Post by SwimToTheMoon on Jun 5, 2011 9:56:53 GMT -5
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Post by mcguire4 on Jun 5, 2011 11:02:19 GMT -5
build that arena now QC!...already there is problems in gongdale. some report just came out and the COG have surprise surpirise, decided to withhold the information.....again.
this is the yotes last year, it has to be.
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Post by louisville55 on Jun 5, 2011 11:33:40 GMT -5
Quebec City may be in line for an NHL team, but it's not the first in line. I think the Coyotes will move next year, but not to QC. Does anyone really think Bettman will relocate an american team to Canada before it goes to another American city. Seattle, KC, Las vegas have all expressed interest lately. My bet is one of them will get a team before QC/Hamilton. Its what the BOG wants, more growth in the U.S.
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Post by postmanpat on Jun 5, 2011 12:13:33 GMT -5
Quebec City may be in line for an NHL team, but it's not the first in line. I think the Coyotes will move next year, but not to QC. Does anyone really think Bettman will relocate an american team to Canada before it goes to another American city. Seattle, KC, Las vegas have all expressed interest lately. My bet is one of them will get a team before QC/Hamilton. Its what the BOG wants, more growth in the U.S. This has been pointed out a million times lately. Winnipeg got the Atlanta Thrashers because of two things. 1) It has a modern NHL-capable arena, and 2) It has an already established ownership group with deep pockets. Quebec City is now moving ahead with its new $400 million arena and an ownership group is already in place (Quebecor Inc.). Seattle, KC, and Las Vegas are red herrings that don't have the elements that Winnipeg did, hence why Winnipeg is selling NHL tickets now and they aren't. Quebec City does have the elements in place. Nothing the NHL does can stop Quebec City from getting a club at this point. Nobody wants to own a team in Phoenix without having the city of Glendale fork over $25 million/year, it just isn't going to work. Eventually Quebecor will step in and offer something like $200 million for it and the NHL in the desire to recoup its losses will accept it. |
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Post by dreamcatcher on Jun 5, 2011 12:58:11 GMT -5
Their AHL team was not successful, and moved in the late 1990's. They have a successful QMJHL team. Winnipeg has opened the flood gates for expansion in more Canadian cities. Expect Quebec and Southern Ontario to be granted teams within the next three years. For some reason I'm not so optimistic about this (though I would like it to happen). That weasel will do everything in his power to keep his experiment alive in the southern US. Phoenix will not survive.....they will be the next to relocate. |
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Post by beer on Jun 5, 2011 13:30:11 GMT -5
People in charge of the project for the return of the Nords are doiing things well. And with the 13,000 tickets been sold so quickly at Winnipeg, be sure PKP will make it happen probably for
2012-2013.
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Post by mikecubs on Jun 5, 2011 13:35:24 GMT -5
Quebec City may be in line for an NHL team, but it's not the first in line. I think the Coyotes will move next year, but not to QC. Does anyone really think Bettman will relocate an american team to Canada before it goes to another American city. Seattle, KC, Las vegas have all expressed interest lately. My bet is one of them will get a team before QC/Hamilton. Its what the BOG wants, more growth in the U.S. Seattle doesn't have an adequate arena. The reason the NBA Seattle Supersonics left is because Key Arena was outdated. Its even worse for hockey. It only seats 11,000 for hockey. There is still tons of opposition to a new arena. It will be at least 10 years until Seattle builds an arena. Vegas doesn't have a new arena and is unlikely to get one. Even if they did get one it would be a disaster worst than Phoenix to move a team to Vegas. Beyond the glitz Vegas is a very low income city. Plus half of the population works at night so that cuts down on potential customers to go to a game. To rely on tourist to come to games would be a disaster. People go to Vegas to gamble and see shows, not hockey. Kansas City has the arena but the market is oversaturated with pro sports teams if you added a 3rd team. Currently Kansas City has a metro population of 2 million. If you added a 3rd team it would make it the smallest city with 3 pro sports teams. And who would the owner be? I wouldn't put it past Bettman to give KC and team but the other 2 locations have no chance. |
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Post by postmanpat on Jun 5, 2011 13:39:36 GMT -5
Kansas City has the arena but the market is oversaturated with pro sports teams if you added a 3rd team. Currently Kansas City has a metro population of 2 million. If you added a 3rd team it would make it the smallest city with 3 pro sports teams. And who would the owner be? I wouldn't put it past Bettman to give KC and team but the other 2 locations have no chance. Oversaturation is something they claimed would occur in Winnipeg. The difference is that Winnipeg is a proven hockey market, while Kansas City isn't. A KC NHL team would probably be third on most lists of teams likely to receive corporate and popular sports investment in the market. |
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Post by Guardian on Jun 5, 2011 13:46:11 GMT -5
I'm for the Nordiques ... hope it happens!!! X2. Winnipeg has demonstrated to the NHL the voracious appetite for hockey in Canada. I'm sure there are a few owners of US based teams looking at the situation in Winnipeg and wondering why they are losing millions of dollars in the US when they caould be making a profit in Canada. |
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Post by leafster on Jun 5, 2011 13:51:18 GMT -5
Does anyone know anything about the Florida Panthers situation these days?
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Post by mikecubs on Jun 5, 2011 16:31:49 GMT -5
Kansas City has the arena but the market is oversaturated with pro sports teams if you added a 3rd team. Currently Kansas City has a metro population of 2 million. If you added a 3rd team it would make it the smallest city with 3 pro sports teams. And who would the owner be? I wouldn't put it past Bettman to give KC and team but the other 2 locations have no chance. Oversaturation is something they claimed would occur in Winnipeg. The difference is that Winnipeg is a proven hockey market, while Kansas City isn't. A KC NHL team would probably be third on most lists of teams likely to receive corporate and popular sports investment in the market. A hockey team in KC would definately be 3rd in support. Kansas City is a Chiefs town. Other than Green Bay they probably have the most loyal fans in the NFL. The Royals suck but they finally have a ton of young talent. They have one of the top farm systems in the game. Most experts think that they will be a serious contender in a few years. Plus Kauffman Stadium is one of the best stadiums in the league. The only way i would go to KC is as a last resort if Quebec City or Seattle don't get their act together and build new arenas. |
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Post by iliketherangers on Jun 5, 2011 16:35:00 GMT -5
Does anyone know anything about the Florida Panthers situation these days? good question, surprised we haven't heard much considering their horrible fan base and lck of success. How are they making money? I bet something will come out from there very soon. |
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Post by kasps on Jun 5, 2011 17:24:59 GMT -5
If they don,t get a new building, there is no chance! If they are waiting for the feds to build one for them ,they will miss out on getting the next franchise to relocate! The private sector has to step up to the plate!
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Post by postmanpat on Jun 5, 2011 17:36:33 GMT -5
Does anyone know anything about the Florida Panthers situation these days? good question, surprised we haven't heard much considering their horrible fan base and lck of success. How are they making money? I bet something will come out from there very soon. Florida is consistently averaging around 15,500 attendance lately. Wouldn't exactly call that 'horrible'. Whether they're making money is another issue, average ticket price was just south of $50 this past season. www.viewfrommyseats.com/2010/08/nhl-ticket-prices/ |
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Post by jm440 on Jun 5, 2011 17:36:35 GMT -5
Wow, they have 49,869 people who like that page. I don't think they would have problems fulfilling season ticket requirements also. Same 2 mins it took us... We need QC, Hamilton, and dare I suggest Saskatchewan, based in the 'toon! |
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Post by postmanpat on Jun 5, 2011 17:41:44 GMT -5
Wow, they have 49,869 people who like that page. I don't think they would have problems fulfilling season ticket requirements also. Same 2 mins it took us... We need QC, Hamilton, and dare I suggest Saskatchewan, based in the 'toon! Lets not get ahead of ourselves now... |
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Post by dentifrice on Jun 5, 2011 17:56:42 GMT -5
If they don,t get a new building, there is no chance! If they are waiting for the feds to build one for them ,they will miss out on getting the next franchise to relocate! The private sector has to step up to the plate! we're not waiting for the feds. All the money needed is already secured. |
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Post by Conky on Jun 5, 2011 18:08:47 GMT -5
Arena Agreement by Mid August, Groundbreaking by next spring, construction immediately after, finished by summer 2013, NHL in QC by 2013-2014. ITS GONNA HAPPEN, FOLKS.
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Post by Conky on Jun 5, 2011 18:09:21 GMT -5
Wow, they have 49,869 people who like that page. I don't think they would have problems fulfilling season ticket requirements also. Same 2 mins it took us... We need QC, Hamilton, and dare I suggest Saskatchewan, based in the 'toon! no. just no |
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Post by mondo on Jun 5, 2011 19:15:28 GMT -5
Just to clarify (as i was unaware of this), is the construction of a new arena in Quebec arena a done deal? If so, when is it expected to be completed?
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