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Post by ovi1 on Jan 15, 2011 7:44:06 GMT -5
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Post by ReJ40 on Jan 15, 2011 11:37:06 GMT -5
It says the clip is only available in the United States.
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Post by hui43210 on Jan 15, 2011 12:21:26 GMT -5
its proably for the better jets lose 5-0. ughhhh
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Post by The Unknown Poster on Jan 15, 2011 12:41:12 GMT -5
Was that series the Jets coach (was it Paddock?) went with his hunch and started the back up goalie? Tabbaracchi, I think...
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Post by hui43210 on Jan 15, 2011 12:47:33 GMT -5
Was that series the Jets coach (was it Paddock?) went with his hunch and started the back up goalie? Tabbaracchi, I think... yep...  |
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Post by 22Neufeld28 on Jan 15, 2011 18:02:43 GMT -5
Its also 1 of 6 Jet games on Itunes for those that dont know.
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Post by CravenMoorhead on Jan 15, 2011 18:20:42 GMT -5
Ok, can someone answer a question I have no answer to even after 19 years.
Bob Essensa was coming off his best season ever. He led the Jets to the playoffs, and was a Vezina Trophy finalist in 1991-92. Yet, the Jets benched him in favor of unproven backup goalie Rick Tabaracci. I have no idea why they did this.
Tabaracci had 3 good games, before running out of gas, and allowing an insane amount of goals in the last 3 games. Essensa went on to have a good year in 92-93, but was never the same confidence-wise.
If only the Jets had put Essensa in goal for the Canucks series, I am positive they would have won. Goalie Bob was 27 at the time, in his prime. I am also convinced Essensa would have had another 6 or 7 good years in the NHL, as a starting goalie. I am sure it had something to do with politics, but I have no answer.
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Post by Yar on Jan 29, 2011 10:49:25 GMT -5
That move to sit Essensa still gets me worked up to this day. I don't understand it at all. Goalie Bob was amazing that year. He was a Vezina finalist for goodness sake! I admit that Tabaracci had a couple of good games where he probably stole a game but when he lets in 8 goals in game 5, I think you gotta go to your proven starter. Then Tabaracci lets in another 8 in game 6, there is no way you go back to him for the final game 7....and they do!! ONly to get lit up again for another 5 and lose the series!
don't quote me on those exact numbers but I'm pretty sure thats the amount of goals.
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Post by Yar on Jan 29, 2011 10:51:22 GMT -5
Series G W L GF GA Vancouver Canucks 4 3 29 17 Winnipeg Jets 3 4 17 29 Apr 18 Winnipeg Jets 3 2 at Vancouver Canucks Apr 20 Winnipeg Jets 2 3 at Vancouver Canucks Apr 22 Vancouver Canucks 2 4 at Winnipeg Jets Apr 24 Vancouver Canucks 1 3 at Winnipeg Jets Apr 26 Winnipeg Jets 2 8 at Vancouver Canucks Apr 28 Vancouver Canucks 8 3 at Winnipeg Jets Apr 30 Winnipeg Jets 0 5 at Vancouver Canucks Vancouver Canucks win series 4 games to 3 www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/playoffdisplay.php?league=nhl1927&season=1992&leaguenm=NHL |
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Post by CravenMoorhead on Mar 7, 2011 20:27:40 GMT -5
Red Light Rick ran out of steam after game 4.
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Post by benny27 on Mar 24, 2011 12:54:11 GMT -5
How you start a goalie who gave up 8 goals the previous game is crazy
Same thing happened with Bob in the Oilers series which they blew the 3-1 lead. Kept rotating between him and Beauregard and they went with Beauregard in game 7
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Post by Yar on Mar 24, 2011 15:48:13 GMT -5
Wasn't Essensa somewhat banged up though after Glen Anderson ran him over in the crease?
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Post by maniaaron on Mar 24, 2011 16:04:00 GMT -5
since this thread is about histroy , does any one know why the jets were so bad in 85-86 after they had a great year in 84-85 ? was ducky hurt ? they went from 43-27 to the flip of that something like 27-43. I moved in 84 so i was out of the loop.
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Post by CravenMoorhead on Mar 24, 2011 23:39:18 GMT -5
How you start a goalie who gave up 8 goals the previous game is crazy Same thing happened with Bob in the Oilers series which they blew the 3-1 lead. Kept rotating between him and Beauregard and they went with Beauregard in game 7 Not even close. 1. Essensa was injured in game 4 when the Jets were leading 2-1 and winning the game. He was injured by Anderson, and never returned. 2. Essensa was benched for the entire series, except when Tabaracci was pulled in Game 5 or 6. He let in 3 goals in 33 minutes. I think it's fair to say that if Essensa had been the lone goalie for both series, the Jets would have won each one. |
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Post by CravenMoorhead on Mar 24, 2011 23:43:13 GMT -5
since this thread is about histroy , does any one know why the jets were so bad in 85-86 after they had a great year in 84-85 ? was ducky hurt ? they went from 43-27 to the flip of that something like 27-43. I moved in 84 so i was out of the loop. Two words: BABYCH - NEUFELD |
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Post by benny27 on Mar 25, 2011 11:40:06 GMT -5
How you start a goalie who gave up 8 goals the previous game is crazy Same thing happened with Bob in the Oilers series which they blew the 3-1 lead. Kept rotating between him and Beauregard and they went with Beauregard in game 7 Not even close. 1. Essensa was injured in game 4 when the Jets were leading 2-1 and winning the game. He was injured by Anderson, and never returned. They rotated goalies that whole series. Stats show that Essensa actually played in 4 games 1989–90 Winnipeg Jets NHL 4 2 1 206 12 0 3.50 .880 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Essensa#Professional_career |
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Post by maniaaron on Mar 25, 2011 13:10:48 GMT -5
since this thread is about histroy , does any one know why the jets were so bad in 85-86 after they had a great year in 84-85 ? was ducky hurt ? they went from 43-27 to the flip of that something like 27-43. I moved in 84 so i was out of the loop. Two words: BABYCH - NEUFELD I know who babych is but who was neufeld ? the year after 85-86 they were back to 40 wins. so how can two players bring a team down so much ? did the coach from 85-86 get canned ? and who coached the team in 86-87 ? someone out there must know or at least have an opinion. |
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Post by Yar on Mar 25, 2011 15:53:54 GMT -5
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Post by maniaaron on Mar 25, 2011 19:28:42 GMT -5
thanks for the links and info. I really liked Babych and his rookie year was that nightmere season. can't understand that trade since he was such a high draft pick. there must have been some issues with J F. I do remember that Dave and his bro married a pair of ( super hot ) twins from Winnipeg. Is that it ? I mean can one bad trade bring a team down like that ? |
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Post by CravenMoorhead on Mar 26, 2011 19:39:08 GMT -5
thanks for the links and info. I really liked Babych and his rookie year was that nightmere season. can't understand that trade since he was such a high draft pick. there must have been some issues with J F. I do remember that Dave and his bro married a pair of ( super hot ) twins from Winnipeg. Is that it ? I mean can one bad trade bring a team down like that ? From what I heard from a reliable source, there were issues with Babych and John Ferguson. One of Fergie's main flaws was his preference for goons, or guys that looked big and intimidating. One reason Fergie drafted Babych was his size. 6'3/220. Babych became the Jets best defenseman right from the start, and arguably their best player. For some strange reason, Fergie thought Babych was too "soft" and did not "drop the gloves" very much, although Babych was not one to back down from a challenge. This led to tension between the two. So when the Jets were treading .500 hockey after 19 games of the 85-86 season, Ferguson make by far, the worst trade in Jets history. He sent the popular Babych for a relatively unknown journeyman named Ray Neufeld. Neufeld was not at fault for this, but the fans hated him because he was not even in Babych's league, and many fans even booed him on occasion. Now a couple of years later, I remember the Jets making another trade during the season, and going into a slump immediately afterwards. One broadcaster (keilback or nickelson) said it reminded him of the Babych trade, in that they had just came off a big road win, and closing in on .500, when news hit the dressing room that Babych was traded to Hartford. Babych was a leader in the dressing room, and very popular with the players. The Jets went into a nosedive, and never recovered. I think their record at the time of the trade was something like 8-9-2. They finished 26-47-7. So after the trade, the Jets were an awful 18-38-5. |
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