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Post by DEATHBYPOPCORN1990 on Nov 8, 2009 16:07:20 GMT -5
KELLY
BAUER
BISHOP
BROWN
ALL OF THEM............These GUYS SUCK
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Post by selanne405 on Nov 8, 2009 16:41:25 GMT -5
Pfft Keep Brown but yup Bishop and kelly got to go and along with our entire recieving crew.
I love how I was the only one supporting Glenn last year and now..well
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Post by DEATHBYPOPCORN1990 on Nov 8, 2009 16:43:54 GMT -5
Nope sorry, Doug Brown has gotten to comfy here in my opinion, and that breeds complacency....GONZO the whole bunch of them!
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Post by jjhmclean on Nov 8, 2009 16:48:48 GMT -5
agreed. Start from scratch,
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Post by KillerBrew on Nov 8, 2009 17:00:37 GMT -5
KELLY BAUER BISHOP BROWN ALL OF THEM............These GUYS SUCK I don't know about Brown. The guy doesn't show up much in the stat book because he is constantly being double-teamed, which helps the other d-men. Here's hoping Ricky Santos is the answer next year.
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Post by selanne405 on Nov 8, 2009 17:05:42 GMT -5
Leave our d alone, they havent been perfect but they've played well enough its our offence that needs a make over, I mean the Bombers had so many chances to win this game but our inability to move the ball lost it for us.
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Post by razorsedge on Nov 8, 2009 17:29:04 GMT -5
agreed. Start from scratch, Thats exactly what the Bombers did starting with management all they way down to the water boy (give or take a few players). A losing season was the result, do you really want to go through that all over again? I say keep the Defence and special teams the same but overhaul the offence. I'm glad this pathetic season is over. Once again the Bombers are the joke of the CFL.
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Post by WpgJets2008 on Nov 8, 2009 17:29:40 GMT -5
From an 8-10 season, we fired the coaching staff to begin the "Bauer-Kelly" era to end this year 7-11. So now what? Blow up the team again?
What would David Asper think? lol
Our castaways have helped the rest of the CFL teams, Hamilton receiving the biggest boost from them.
I would love for Bob Irving to ask Bomber brass why they didn't trade:
Glenn, Armstrong, Bryant, Franklin, plus many others that the Bombers got rid of (and received nothing for)
for just ONE decent QB like: Jackson, Pierce, Lulay, Maas, MacPherson, or Porter.
or why they didn't bring in Casey Printers for free?
We flushed all that talent out and got zero legitimate QBs in house for the 2010 season. So based on that, I would call this season not only a step back but also a wasted year as our rebuilding on offense can be argued to being worse-off than season end last year.
The only positive this season is that we finally found a defensive secondary, something the Bombers couldn't seem to do in the past 5 plus seasons.
Chris PS> I now go into the third offseason waiting for the Bomber Brass to make significant changes to show me that they are a legitimate CFL team and deserve my season ticket dollars.
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Post by razorsedge on Nov 8, 2009 17:47:07 GMT -5
Glenn had a terrible year and rumored $300, 000 a year contract and due a $50,000 bonus payment. So his trade value was zero.
Romby Bryant and Arjei Franklin were traded for Jabari Arthur and Titus Ryan (who scored our only offensive touchdown today).
Armstrong was a crybaby who refused to play minutes before a game. Do you really think he had any trade value?
Buck Pierce is injured every other game. Jackson is the same as Bishop. Maas is locked up in Edmonton. Quintin Porter is considered Hamiltons future, so Hamilton had no intention of trading him and plus he isn't very good. Lulay, I believe is injured.
McPherson (who you probably never even heard of until 2 weeks ago) is reported to be a free agent this off season.
Nice blog Chris but stick to what you know.
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Post by DEATHBYPOPCORN1990 on Nov 8, 2009 18:34:18 GMT -5
The opinions here today suck almost as much as the Bombers,
You guys are fired too!
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Post by jjhmclean on Nov 8, 2009 18:38:33 GMT -5
BAUER.......it starts there
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Post by KillerBrew on Nov 8, 2009 19:03:57 GMT -5
BAUER.......it starts there Agreed. Can we fire Kelly? Is Berry still under contract? Do we really want to have three coaches under contract next year? I assume there's going to be a major backlash from the fans next year and money's gonna be tight.
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Post by razorsedge on Nov 8, 2009 21:33:26 GMT -5
The opinions here today suck almost as much as the Bombers, You guys are fired too! I'm guessing today was the first Bomber game you've watched this season. The Oline and QB are the biggest issues on the field and not having a proper offensive cordinator. Your one liners are getting old.
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Post by roosta604 on Nov 8, 2009 23:47:46 GMT -5
It was known to be a rebuilding year, but we didn't rebuild the most important position on the field...the quarterback
From day one we had Lefors pencilled in...like Kelly has secret man crushes on players he brought withm him from edmonton it was so obvious.
Failure to address this area costed us big time, sure bishop gave us a few wins, but not a single bomber fan had any confidence with him at the helm..he was simply a bit better then lefors and the team started to gel a bit better after lefors was gone as well
What a second half, in your own house and you throw two completions and two interceptions for touchdowns!!!!
Seriously we need an NHL team to fall back on in times like this... I would agree starting at the top sounds about right, just keep our secondary (hefney, johnson, walls)
Oh well...so frustrating all season, feels like the bombers were just a sick dog waiting to be put to sleep, but it was for the better.
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Post by DEATHBYPOPCORN1990 on Nov 8, 2009 23:48:53 GMT -5
The opinions here today suck almost as much as the Bombers, You guys are fired too! I'm guessing today was the first Bomber game you've watched this season. The Oline and QB are the biggest issues on the field and not having a proper offensive cordinator. Your one liners are getting old. I'm not here to make conversation, Look at ya now!
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Post by JETStender on Nov 9, 2009 5:03:53 GMT -5
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Post by TheDeuce on Nov 9, 2009 10:34:42 GMT -5
I've been calling for Lyle Bauer's head for over a year now - and until a few weeks ago I was feeling like I was the only one noticing the naked emperor. I fired this off to some guys I know at the Sun (my sister used to date a reporter there and we still get together from time to time). Got a lot of positive feedback on it:
Hey guys,
I have a question. Why is no one calling out Lyle Bauer on this debacle? Mike Kelly is Mike Kelly and I’m starting to think his arrogance makes him a lost cause, but it was Bauer who brought this clown in when Berry had one year left on his contract. So now we get to pay for the salaries of two coaches and get the quality coaching of zero coaches.
Now, did this happen as a result of an exhaustive search and full competition for the position? No, it was an anointing. It was cronyism. It was two DNA strands away from nepotism. This might be forgivable if Bauer had a track record of success but he’s presided over “Unfinished Business – Volumes IX – XVIII”. A reign of failure that brings to mind our long-lost beloved Jets.
To which I always get a stock response of the great job he’s done off the field. Super! Let’s make a deal – let’s all go to our managers and tell them that we, from now on, will only do half our jobs and still expect full paycheques. See you all at the Unemployment Office.
This crap needs to end! It’s not just that we’re not winning Cups, it’s that were regressing! We’ve gone through some four general managers, four coaches, a half-dozen quarterbacks, and probably 100+ players while LB’s been in the big chair. He is the only constant in this reign of error. Everything else has been changed! It’s becoming pretty clear which cylinder is misfiring here.
And if people think I’m being harsh, tough. With the big chair comes big responsibility – I would have no problem with Lyle Bauer taking credit for successes, if he had any, but the flip side of that coin is that a man should own his errors.
After the Hamilton game, Mike Kelly said the LeFors debacle was on Mike Kelly’s shoulders.
Now let’s hear Lyle Bauer say that the Mike Kelly debacle is on Lyle Bauer’s shoulders.
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Post by WpgJets2008 on Nov 9, 2009 10:47:27 GMT -5
Razor,
Your analysis from Alberta missed many facts. Some aren't even known to the public.
Until the Bombers trade for a decent QB or develop one in house, Winnipeg will never see another Grey Cup. It's that simple.
I have it from an inside source that the Bomber Brass (the Board) was fighting daily with Football Operations (Bauer and Kelly) throughout the offseason for the terrible personnel moves the new regime was making and continued to make throughout the season. Allowing a division foe to get Glenn was another huge fight. They were worried then that it might cost us a playoff spot. I guess the Board was right again!
You were just plain wrong on several of your personnel statements. I can tell you that over the past winter, Glenn had fair backup value around the league regardless of his contract. He was being shopped privately then publicly.
Armstrong was a 1,000 yd receiver and had interest from more than one team. And Kelly was shopping him then. (Kelly only pissed him off by letting him believe he was going to start, only to have him come off the bench. So things only went bad after the season had already started. Thus, his trade value over winter was still intact.) Kelly fumbled again!
Trading a stud non-import receiver like Franklin and not getting a QB back created another serious pissing match in the Bomber offices between these two groups. (Decent to above average receivers who happen to be Canadian can be named on one hand in the CFL.) Injured for most of his year with the Bombers, he was to be a cornerstone of the franchise for many years.
Another Kelly should have traded in the off-season, if he didn't have any confidence in is Barrin Simpson. He was benched and yet could start on almost any CFL defense. He was a stud signing away from BC but he never expected to be humiliated by the Bombers like he was this season. The Board also felt the need to try to uphold the reputation of the franchise by extending an olive branch to both Kelly and Simpson to work their differences out.
Players talk around the league. Hearing how guys were treated in Winnipeg will keep free agents away and make the next GM's job that much more difficult.
Also, look for several key Bombers to ask to be traded this off-season. Edwards told Bomber staff wants to go back to Montreal. You can tell Doug Brown is sick of this mess and was rumoured around the Bomber offices for looking for a trade last off-season but was talked out of it, as the Bombers were said to be "retooling, not rebuilding". Big joke that that is now! Look for Jovon Johnson to get his NFL shot.
This is a forum to debate points of view. I don't appreciate juvenile personal attacks that my posts may compell you to make. And the moderators will show those that do this sort of thing the door.
Chris
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Post by selanne405 on Nov 9, 2009 10:59:24 GMT -5
Razor, Your analysis from Alberta missed many facts. Some aren't even known to the public. Until the Bombers trade for a decent QB or develop one in house, Winnipeg will never see another Grey Cup. It's that simple. I have it from an inside source that the Bomber Brass (the Board) was fighting daily with Football Operations (Bauer and Kelly) throughout the offseason for the terrible personnel moves the new regime was making and continued to make throughout the season. Allowing a division foe to get Glenn was another huge fight. They were worried then that it might cost us a playoff spot. I guess the Board was right again! You were just plain wrong on several of your personnel statements. I can tell you that over the past winter, Glenn had fair backup value around the league regardless of his contract. He was being shopped privately then publicly. Armstrong was a 1,000 yd receiver and had interest from more than one team. And Kelly was shopping him then. (Kelly only pissed him off by letting him believe he was going to start, only to have him come off the bench. So things only went bad after the season had already started. Thus, his trade value over winter was still intact.) Kelly fumbled again! Trading a stud non-import receiver like Franklin and not getting a QB back created another serious pissing match in the Bomber offices between these two groups. (Decent to above average receivers who happen to be Canadian can be named on one hand in the CFL.) Injured for most of his year with the Bombers, he was to be a cornerstone of the franchise for many years. Another Kelly should have traded in the off-season, if he didn't have any confidence in is Barrin Simpson. He was benched and yet could start on almost any CFL defense. He was a stud signing away from BC but he never expected to be humiliated by the Bombers like he was this season. The Board also felt the need to try to uphold the reputation of the franchise by extending an olive branch to both Kelly and Simpson to work their differences out. Players talk around the league. Hearing how guys were treated in Winnipeg will keep free agents away and make the next GM's job that much more difficult. Also, look for several key Bombers to ask to be traded this off-season. Edwards told Bomber staff wants to go back to Montreal. You can tell Doug Brown is sick of this mess and was rumoured around the Bomber offices for looking for a trade last off-season but was talked out of it, as the Bombers were said to be "retooling, not rebuilding". Big joke that that is now! Look for Jovon Johnson to get his NFL shot. This is a forum to debate points of view. I don't appreciate juvenile personal attacks that my posts may compell you to make. And the moderators will show those that do this sort of thing the door. Chris Well Spoken Whats really frusterating is the fact that this could be a great team if we had a good qb. Something else that pissed me off is not just that we let Glenn go, but we didnt do it quick enough and had to give him his big bonus for free I mean how big a waste of money was that? And what about Joe Smith he was a beast and we just released him that was a terrible move.
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Post by Smokie on Nov 9, 2009 11:29:08 GMT -5
Did any one else watch the very end of the game on TSN... The Hamilton coach didn't even look at Mike Kelly when they shook hands (it was a drive by hand shake), the rest of the Ti-Cats were all looking over and appeared to be yelling at Kelly who was left standing there wanting to talk to the Ti-Cats coach. I watched this in slow motion on my PVR a few times. It was pretty funny. Mike Kelly doesn't have many people who like or respect him. That's a big problem. Fire him and cut our losses.
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