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Post by mojo on Jan 3, 2007 20:16:34 GMT -5
This is great people like BT have no clue how business works but they think they do. Asper can do what he wants with his money and some people here think he is a bad guy cause he does not want to spend millions and millions of dollars on an NHL team.
Despite what these dicks say the CFL is very popular in Winnipeg and the Bombers are now Winnipeg's team.
They always talk about how much the love the city and want nothing but the best for it but when they hear that a new stadium could be built and the Bombers could actually be able to compete financially with the big boys it is a bad thing.
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Post by mojo on Jan 3, 2007 20:18:39 GMT -5
A person is going to buy what they like. Mr. Asper likes CFL football more than hockey or he likes the fact that the players actually earn their money, costs for a CFL team are a lot less than an NHL team. Thats true but blackthorne thinks he is the one who should tell people what to spend their money on and if they do not agree with him then they are idiots. The guy is a joke.
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Post by blackthorne on Jan 3, 2007 20:35:53 GMT -5
Mojo, s t f u.
I'm implying that if David Asper was going to be the "main" guy in an NHL ownership group, but has changed his mind and is now instead gonna build a new stadium for the Bombers, in a way it's bad for Winnipeg.
Unless someone fills his place in our NHL ownership group. But there are only so many billionaires in Winnipeg...
And yes, you're still an idiot for what you've said about JetsOwner supporters.
And it's clear now you care a lot more about the Bombers than an NHL team back in Winnipeg. THAT is sad...
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Post by leer2006 on Jan 3, 2007 20:41:34 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong. I like the Bombers but outside of Winnipeg and Canada the Cfl does nothing for promoting our city in outside markets. The Nhl is a way for people to take notice of Winnipeg again.
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Post by mojo on Jan 3, 2007 20:46:33 GMT -5
BT who cares if I support the Bombers??? What is it to you I have not missed a game in 12 years and even go and support them on the road at least twice a season. I love how you hate people how are more Bomber fans then Jets fans. I love football so be it.
Not my problem you hate the Bombers and everything else in the city of Winnipeg which you have proven by saying a new owner and a new stadium for the Bombers is bad for the city.
So if you think the only thing that Winnipeg has going for it is the chance the Jets will return well you are going to be waiting a long time.
Yes Winnipeg is an NHL city but as long as the big wigs in power in the NHL are around it is not going to happen.
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Post by mojo on Jan 3, 2007 20:47:23 GMT -5
Just love how you think that all Bomber fans are idiots for supporting them. Give me a break you jerk.
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Post by mojo on Jan 3, 2007 20:50:15 GMT -5
Also when did David Asper ever say he was going to be the "main guy" in buying an NHL team for all the years I have known him he has always wanted and talked about buying the Bombers. He is a much bigger football fan then he ever was a hockey fan.
But I guess that makes him an idiot as well for liking football more then hockey. Just love how you think that if people do not agree with you they are wrong. You sound like a dictator.
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Post by blackthorne on Jan 3, 2007 20:51:11 GMT -5
I don't hate them. I attend Bomber games as well and the die-hards that want Winnipeg to destroy our opposition delight me.
I don't *hate* them. They've just let us down for 17 straight years so I'm a little bitter. They play in an 8 team league. Technically we should've *accidentally* won the Grey Cup by now...
In a way it is- and surely you must agree- IF David Asper is doing this INSTEAD of being the main financer in the purchase of a for-sale NHL team.
Sure, we don't know for sure if that's the case. But it's a good guess IMHO.
Yet another "Bettman won't allow Winnipeg back in the league" guy...
Source?
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Post by mojo on Jan 3, 2007 21:01:30 GMT -5
Well how many times have Bettman said that expanding to Canada was not a priority and that there were markets in the U.S. that had to be looked at.
If you think that Bettman wants the NHL in Winnipeg over places in the States then you are wrong that seems to be what he cares more about.. The US market rather then the Canadian market. He thinks that by putting teams in places that do not even care about hockey will help the game... He is a Go Jets Go who needs to be replaced.
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Post by razorsedge on Jan 3, 2007 21:04:56 GMT -5
Well, concerning Bettman, I agree with mojo. Source? The Jets leaving Winnipeg, without even a peep from Bettman opposing the sale and relocation.
I really really hate Bettman and what he has done to the League as a whole.
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Post by KillerBrew on Jan 3, 2007 21:09:03 GMT -5
Well, concerning Bettman, I agree with mojo. Source? The Jets leaving Winnipeg, without even a peep from Bettman opposing the sale and relocation. I really really hate Bettman and what he has done to the League as a whole. Don't forget Hartford and Quebec...great hockey markets that left for "greener pastures" down south... Edit: Sorry, I forgot Quebec went to Denver...that didn't turn out bad but still left without a fight from Bettman.
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Post by blackthorne on Jan 3, 2007 21:11:11 GMT -5
I believe Bettman now knows the Canadian teams are the "heart and soul" of the NHL.
- Everyone... EVERYONE by now knows the notion of the "big, NFL-like t.v. contract" deal for the NHL died a long time ago. One of the reasons Bettman didn't do everything he could to save the Jets. (back in the mid 90's he wanted more teams in big U.S. cities... the mid 90's were a long time ago- MUCH has changed since then)
- Bettman wasn't responsible for the Jets leaving. Our owners sold the team to a group from Phoenix because we didn't build a new arena.... that would have effectively destroyed Wpg Enterprises (which was what everyone wanted) and had lotsa luxury suites.
- Bettman has gone on record to say "maybe someday after all this (then-CBA negotiations had ended and a new deal put in place) is behind us there might be a chance to go back (to Winnipeg)"... I've never heard him say ANYTHING about K.C. possibly joining the league...
- Bettman reports that everything is peachy-keep with the southern markets and their "announced" attendance. It's his JOB to make everything look great with the NHL. But I'm almost positive he MUST know about the 10,00 empty seats at some NHL games.. he's the commissioner... and although he might have been stupid in the past... I think he's learned a lot during his tenure w/ the NHL.
- He helped (?) return a team to Minnesota (which is pretty much southern Manitoba if you look at a map) after the North STars left in 1993..
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Post by mojo on Jan 3, 2007 21:12:03 GMT -5
Bettman has done way more to hurt the NHL then help it. He is probably the worst commissioner ever in the NHL.
What surprise me is someone like BT who wants the Jets back and is passionate about it and I don't blame him for it and good for him for wanting it.. But to seem to support Bettman seems strange.
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Post by mojo on Jan 3, 2007 21:17:53 GMT -5
BT every time someone posts someone you ask for a source.. well when did Bettman every go on record saying that a team could return to Winnipeg? Every interview I ever seen him give on the situation he always talked about building the NHL in the States.. As he said there will always be support in Canada no matter where the teams are but the challenge is to build the game south of the border. So where is the proof that Bettman has ever said that?
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Post by blackthorne on Jan 3, 2007 21:18:49 GMT -5
hang on, i'll find it for you Don't worry- I back up what I say. I heard him say it during a press conference just before the lockout (why would I lie?) I'll try and find an internet link Here's something in the meantime: "But if a franchise does have to move, there are several markets interested, including Winnipeg." - Gary Bettman from www.jetsowner.com/notablequotes.htm
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