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Post by DEATHBYPOPCORN1990 on Apr 11, 2006 20:16:13 GMT -5
I will be ridiculed for this I can just feel it, I know that expansion into the United States has been tried before and apparently was not successful, I beleive that it failed in large part because it was expanded to far South, to places like Alabama, Louisianna, Texas, all places that don't even know where Canada is, Stay with me, and anyone that cares about football that far South again isn't going to see the CFL as a viable alternative to The Far Superior NFL, aside for a few markets, Most of these States had NFL teams somewhere within them and the Canadian game was domed from the onset, Now strategically placed in Markets of some size where there is no NFL as direct competition, and yes I am aware of the College teams in every Town, City and State, I think this League could make a go of it as a Canadian/American League, I mean why not, are there no markets of size available bigger than Regina without the NFL to compete with, again not to far South, Let's see..............Omaha, Nebraska, POP. 404, 267, Des Moines, Iowa, POP. 196,093, Portland, Oregon, POP. 538,544, these are just considered Metropolitan populations, not including their suburbs, alot of these cities have outer lying populations that double them for a market, as interest grows around these US based teams, then try to challenge in more Southerly Markets, The Whole point here is 8 teams is to small and too boring to keep interested, put a team in Halifax already, get some border rivalries going and generate some interest, I know I hated to see Baltimore win THE GREY CUP, but perfect example, The people of Baltimore had rallies to try and save the team from moving to Montreal when the league closed shop in the States, Why, No NFL, this league needs a kick start that creates some real interest, really how many Banjo Bowls can we endure in a season? LET THE RIDICULE BEGIN!
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Post by DEATHBYPOPCORN1990 on Apr 11, 2006 21:22:01 GMT -5
just my view, but the CFL should remain a Canadian league...it has a long history...teams should be added Halifax and maybe Quebec City 10 teams is a good size... Fair Enough
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Post by gee on Apr 11, 2006 21:55:04 GMT -5
they would need a local content rule to offset the canadian content rule. X amount of people from within a certain local area
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Post by yogi on Apr 11, 2006 22:27:03 GMT -5
the Canadian game was domed from the onset i'm pretty sure most of the US expansion teams played outside
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Post by DEATHBYPOPCORN1990 on Apr 11, 2006 22:32:00 GMT -5
the Canadian game was domed from the onset i'm pretty sure most of the US expansion teams played outside DOOMED, good one YOGI
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Post by simplesimon on Apr 12, 2006 17:00:40 GMT -5
I wouldn't say the Canadian game was doomed from the onset. It's history is older than American football's. The NFL game was adopted from McGill Universitie's style in the 1800's.
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Post by yogi on Apr 12, 2006 18:41:31 GMT -5
so basically canadians invented hockey, basketball, baseball, and football(in concept). hehehe i'm going to have to rub that in some american sports fans face!
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Post by kj79 on Apr 12, 2006 19:52:39 GMT -5
baseball? really?!
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Post by USApegger on Apr 12, 2006 20:07:39 GMT -5
so basically canadians invented hockey, basketball, baseball, and football(in concept). hehehe i'm going to have to rub that in some american sports fans face! And Americans made these games better (except for hockey)
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Post by ratzy on Apr 12, 2006 22:56:52 GMT -5
I would prefer watching CFL rules to NFL aside from television coverage and the talent pool...I realize that the talent in the CFL is a long ways off from NFL...but overall, I like the 3 down game more and like higher scoring matches. I once watched the Cowboys win a 6-0 game....whoopty doo!!! Unfortunately the atmosphere of 25,000 fans is pretty pathetic compared to 70,000. And IMHO, the passing in CFL is more enjoyable than watching guys pound the ball 3-4 yards per carry.
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Post by yogi on Apr 12, 2006 23:16:41 GMT -5
i hear it all the time, so i just believe it. and you can't honestly think you yanks have improved baseball, it's as boring as hell
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Post by yogi on Apr 12, 2006 23:17:09 GMT -5
i hear it all the time, so i just believe it. and USApegger you can't honestly think you yanks have improved baseball, it's as boring as hell
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Post by DEATHBYPOPCORN1990 on Apr 12, 2006 23:22:06 GMT -5
I would prefer watching CFL rules to NFL aside from television coverage and the talent pool...I realize that the talent in the CFL is a long ways off from NFL...but overall, I like the 3 down game more and like higher scoring matches. I once watched the Cowboys win a 6-0 game....whoopty doo!!! Unfortunately the atmosphere of 25,000 fans is pretty pathetic compared to 70,000. And IMHO, the passing in CFL is more enjoyable than watching guys pound the ball 3-4 yards per carry. Agreed, and that's why I think if only The CFL could make a break into the states in markets without THE NFL, they could develop a serious following, but playing the same team every other week doesn't create alot of interest! Any good business owner knows in order to remain viable and appealing you need to expand into other areas and the States is that area I think.
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Post by hawker14 on Apr 13, 2006 2:51:30 GMT -5
when 100,000 people fill a college stadium on saturday's to watch football ................ they don't want nor need an alternative.
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Post by razorsedge on Apr 13, 2006 11:09:10 GMT -5
I was talking to a co-worker the other day about the CFL. My co-worker is from Quebec city. He said there was absolutely no interest in the CFL in Quebec city. He also mentioned something about an exhibition game was supposed to be held in Halifax one year, but it ended up being canceled cause nobody bought tickets. Most east coasters I've talked to never heard of the CFL, and if they have, they thought it was College Football League.
I'd like to see the CFL expand to 10 teams. It would be worth a try to see what markets it would work in.
What about Victoria, BC? I think the population there is something around 350,000 (bigger than Regina).
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Post by yogi on Apr 14, 2006 3:04:38 GMT -5
I was talking to a co-worker the other day about the CFL. My co-worker is from Quebec city. He said there was absolutely no interest in the CFL in Quebec city. He also mentioned something about an exhibition game was supposed to be held in Halifax one year, but it ended up being canceled cause nobody bought tickets. Most east coasters I've talked to never heard of the CFL, and if they have, they thought it was College Football League. I'd like to see the CFL expand to 10 teams. It would be worth a try to see what markets it would work in. What about Victoria, BC? I think the population there is something around 350,000 (bigger than Regina). most of the stuff you said in that post isn't true. for one thing the CFL held an exhibition game in halifax last year, and since it was so sucessful they decided to hold another one this year(it had to be cancelled after ottawa folded because ottawa was to play in the game) and i'm sure they'll hold another exhibition game on the east coast next year. i'm pretty sure the CFL has held games in quebec city too. right now the leading candidates for CFL expansion are on the east coast too( halifax and moncton) and both cities governments have campaigned to get stadiums they're already planning to build for the comonwealth games and international track and field built large enough so they could be the home of a CFL team in the future. and when the ottawa renegades were on sale before they folded a guy from detroit tried to buy them to move them to detroit until a new stadium in windsor was built, but the CFL wasn't interested in relocating the gades so they passed. so IMO the candidates for a CFL expansion team are as follows Halifax- the city is pretty sure they've won the bid to hold the commonwealth games and are strongly considering building the stadium even before the winner of the bid is officailly announced. Moncton- they have already won , or are the leaders in a bid for the international track and field games, and are planning to build a stadiu for the games Windsor- a buyer submitted a serious bid to move the renegades to windsor Quebec City- despite what your co-worker says, football in quebec is gaining popularity quickly Saskatoon- there hasn't been much talk about them, but many people fromsaskatoon and even farther north drive down to regina regularly to watch rider games, so it's a logical choice. Victoria- it's popultion is 335, 000 and football is very popular around vancouver, so it too is a logical choice i would love to see all those cities some day get a team, which would mean 15 teams along with ottawa. i would also love to see the cfl expand to cities in the northern states of the us, like minnesota, new york, michigan. i think those temas would have alot more success than the previous expansion which placed teams in san antonio and memphis.
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Post by USApegger on Apr 14, 2006 10:54:05 GMT -5
Why would the CFL even think about putting a team in Saskatoon? You would split the fan base in half and probably neither team would then survive, the same goes for Victoria IMO.
I can't ever see the CFL expanding south again unless they change the rules and field size
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Post by razorsedge on Apr 14, 2006 12:59:28 GMT -5
Like I said, it was all hear say from a co-worker, and that co-worker overall is kind of an idiot (a frenchman from Quebec city). I probably misunderstood him when it came to the game being canceled.
Saskatchewan Rough riders are too loved by the whole province to have another team. Victoria is on Vancouver island, with a ferry it's pretty much a days travel to get to Vancouver city, so a team i think would work in Victoria and would make a great rivalry (island vs. mainland).
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Post by DEATHBYPOPCORN1990 on Apr 14, 2006 19:27:14 GMT -5
Why would the CFL even think about putting a team in Saskatoon? You would split the fan base in half and probably neither team would then survive, the same goes for Victoria IMO. I can't ever see the CFL expanding south again unless they change the rules and field size I don't think they gotta do anything with the rules and field, I mean if Americans can eat up Arena Football then surely they are going to find the Canadian format just as Exciting! PLUS the dollars that would be generated by the league for expansion fees would be a good infusion to get the league on solid footing again.
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Post by yogi on Apr 14, 2006 22:26:59 GMT -5
Why would the CFL even think about putting a team in Saskatoon? You would split the fan base in half and probably neither team would then survive, the same goes for Victoria IMO. I can't ever see the CFL expanding south again unless they change the rules and field size I don't think they gotta do anything with the rules and field, I mean if Americans can eat up Arena Football then surely they are going to find the Canadian format just as Exciting! PLUS the dollars that would be generated by the league for expansion fees would be a good infusion to get the league on solid footing again. also if you only expand to northern states like minnesota and washing, you cut down traveling costs compared to the previous expansion!
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