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Post by hatrick007 on Nov 15, 2004 20:02:57 GMT -5
If you guys could fix one thing about Winnipeg what would it be? (Not including bringing the Jets back, because I already know that we all want that). Crime has been bad lately especially with all of the break-ins (Including my car).
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Post by Jari on Nov 15, 2004 20:08:56 GMT -5
I voted for the peoples attitude.
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Post by 3lackThorne on Nov 15, 2004 20:27:12 GMT -5
If everyone in Winnipeg had the same kind of attitude as Darren Ford this city would be an awesome place.
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Post by Neil on Nov 15, 2004 21:05:44 GMT -5
ATTITUDE PROBLEMS LIFE IS TOO SHORT DARE TO DREAM
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Post by hatrick007 on Nov 15, 2004 23:50:20 GMT -5
Wow... 100% of the votes go to fixing Winnipegers attitudes, why am I not surprised....
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Post by KillerBrew on Nov 16, 2004 1:48:58 GMT -5
I too picked attitude, mainly because I didn't want to ruin the attitude streak ;D ARGH! Those blasted potholes my car takes a beating! Damn them to H-E-Double hockey sticks!
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Post by icecoldian on Nov 16, 2004 1:55:37 GMT -5
Not Everyone's attitude, but a select few.
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Post by Trent Steele on Nov 16, 2004 13:23:18 GMT -5
How does one go about fixing the weather?
I broke the streak and picked downtown. I did this because people's attitudes need a reason to change. Let's say it's a Friday night, and people are looking to go out for dinner, how many people go to a downtown restaurant...oops, the two downtown restaurants have no room(use of hyperbole for dramatic effect, please don't list all downtown restaurants), so people go to Corydon, or Pembina, or to Polo park where there are many quality restaurants to choose from...Let's say that it a Saturday afternoon and you need to go buy some clothes at the mall...who's going to go Downtown? Portage Place doesn't offer enough to entice people to shop downtown, and the few surrounding shops can't make up the difference between in and the other malls in the city. Let's say that it's a weekday evening in the summer, people flock to Corydon to sit out on the patios, why can't they flock to downtown? Let's say that it's a Sunday night in the summer...thousands of people line Portage avenue from Polo Park to Main St for Sun night cruise night...why not have these people sitting on patios putting some money into the downtown. People in Winnipeg tend to be very isolated in their own area of town, and have very few reasons to change. Slowly, things are starting to get better, with the new arena, Red River C.C. 's new downtown campus, some new loft's and apartment developments planned...but we need more...if we clean up the downtown, we give people a reason to change there attitudes.
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Post by bigchris on Nov 16, 2004 13:31:05 GMT -5
One city we should be looking at for inspiration is Cleveland, Ohio. For a lot of reasons:
1. Cleveland was always considered "losertown USA" very much like we have been stigmatised as. (All over the country we have been called LOSERpeg for decades.)
2. For over 40 years they were embedded in the same kind of thinking that the old fogies in this town force on their youth.
3. Said population has been living in the past here for a very long time. Cleveland used to be very similar.
4. It took losing a truely beloved team (the Browns,) to wake everyone up about what that kind of thinking had done to the city. The ensuing decade has seen a complete .180 change in attitude in Cleveland.
5. One new generation of Clevelanders took the initiative and changed the fortunes of Cleveland and in 10 short years, that city is a much better place to live and has a thriving business community. Oh, and did I mention that they got their beloved Browns back?
We may get slagged by our elders but take a look at how far Cleveland has come and you can see the pot of gold at the end of our rainbow if we keep at it!
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Post by jets4ever on Nov 17, 2004 14:58:03 GMT -5
While downtown still needs a lot of work, it doesn't even compare to the work that needs to be done on the overall mindset of the population of this city.
It's time for everyone to take a step into the 21st Century.
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Post by 3lackThorne on Nov 17, 2004 14:59:42 GMT -5
I assume it's mostly *young* people that are saying "attitude" is the biggest problem in Winnipeg...
I wonder what the older citizens of this city would say..
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Post by Jari on Nov 17, 2004 16:24:13 GMT -5
They would say they want some free prune juice probably.
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Post by cjrs on Nov 17, 2004 19:35:47 GMT -5
The streets, definately. I just started driving and I never realized how bad the potholes really are.
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Post by jets4ever on Nov 17, 2004 23:28:59 GMT -5
The streets, definately. I just started driving and I never realized how bad the potholes really are. That's because too many people complain about the cost to repair them.
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Post by Ducky on Nov 28, 2004 13:23:15 GMT -5
I picked downtown.
Downtown needs more than just one/two bedroom appartement/condos. We need some 3+ bedrooms ...basically there will be a need of a safe community for famillies. As for retail, downtown needs to rezone some areas to accomodate major retail. And more security for late night shopping. But also we need more than just retail to bring people downtown, I hope a Music hall of fame would make its home in downtown Winnipeg; remember when everyone embrassed in having an inside waterpark but it fell through I would suggest that wet'n'wild or fun mountain change their venue to an indoors waterpark in downtown. I would also like to see downtown a classy upscale casino that could share venue with the struggling WSO and Ballet. I hate to say this but the salvation army has to move from higgins. From higgins all the way to portage and main. it needs to be totally revamped, a nice touch would be behaving shops of aboriginal culture (artwork, leatherwear, restaurants, etc).
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Post by jets4life on Dec 2, 2004 4:25:07 GMT -5
I would revitalize not only downtown, but much of the inner city, especially the West End between Arlington and Balmoral Street. That area has so much potential, but crime, drugs and prostitution are rampant.
If we could turn Sargent into "Little Portugal", as business owners are planning to do, and make it like the Corydon village, I'm sure the area would make a dramatic change.
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Post by Trent Steele on Dec 2, 2004 9:43:33 GMT -5
I can't wait to see the SAAN building ripped out for the new Hydro building. I wish that they would take out the United Army Surplus store, it just looks like a hole, and it's location would make it a great spot for a nice hotel, or high profile retail store. When you drive south down Colony, towards the Legislature building, you see the Bay on the left (a nice old building with alot of character and architecture) and the United Army Surplus on the right which just looks second rate.
I agree with Ducky, that they should put a high class casino downtown somewhere in conjunction with a upscale hotel. If the hotel was Canad Inns, some profits could go to the Bombers, etc...
We need a few more high-rise buildings in this city. When you fly into Winnipeg and look at the skyline, you see maybe 10 buildings that stick out, and some of those are only because the surrounding buildings are 2-3 stories. It just makes the city look small scale compared to other cities which leads to negative attitudes.
Putting some decent retail stores in Portage Place and increasing security inside, will get people shopping downtown again.
Someone had a post about turning the Sargent area into little portugal. I think that would be a great idea...whether it's little portugal, or little somethingelse, it would be good for downtown to have a strip that rivals corydon for cafe's, and restaurants. Heck, cleaning up Ellice and putting something there would be nice. Fixing downtown isn't going to happen overnight, but give it a year or two, and projects will start multiplying and things will improve rapidly. If we can get an LRT or something or that nature that will make it easy, fast and convenient to get downtown, it will help reduce traffic, and get people downtown on a regular basis. As it is now, most people don't venture downtown unless they work there, or have to drive through to get somewhere...we need this to change.
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Post by samson on Dec 2, 2004 19:31:54 GMT -5
I can't wait to see the SAAN building ripped out for the new Hydro building. I wish that they would take out the United Army Surplus store, it just looks like a hole, and it's location would make it a great spot for a nice hotel, or high profile retail store. When you drive south down Colony, towards the Legislature building, you see the Bay on the left (a nice old building with alot of character and architecture) and the United Army Surplus on the right which just looks second rate. I agree with Ducky, that they should put a high class casino downtown somewhere in conjunction with a upscale hotel. If the hotel was Canad Inns, some profits could go to the Bombers, etc... We need a few more high-rise buildings in this city. When you fly into Winnipeg and look at the skyline, you see maybe 10 buildings that stick out, and some of those are only because the surrounding buildings are 2-3 stories. It just makes the city look small scale compared to other cities which leads to negative attitudes. Putting some decent retail stores in Portage Place and increasing security inside, will get people shopping downtown again. If I recall, there was talk of a casino coming back to the downtown area in conjunction with the new arena, but it was just that, talk. As for the bigger buildings, need people and companies to fill them. I'm sure the Hydro tower will help out the skyline. I would have to agree about the skyline though. I lived in Calgary for a bit and when I drove back home the the 'Peg, or drove to Calgary, I saw a Calgary skyline that was long and tall. Winnipeg on the other hand is flat with a couple of tall buildings that look like grain elevators from a distance. As for Portage Place, it doesn't matter what store is put in there, I won't go out of my way to shop there. If I had a doctors appointment then yes I'll go but if I don't have a reason or need to be downtown, then I don't go. It's the same for any shopping centre. I only go shopping if I need something. If I can't find what I want and REALLY NEED IT, then I'll branch out to other areas, maybe even downtown. Getting back to the poll, I said streets. They need to be fixed and widened to handle the amount of traffic that's using them.
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Post by USA Jets Fan on Dec 9, 2004 15:39:03 GMT -5
If the city removed about 50% of its stop lights it would be a better place. For example, why are their not access roads along the newly developed parts of Metro Route 90/Bishop Grandin?! Who was in charge of this?It was turning into a great thrufare until they stuck up all those stupid lights. Gravel access roads would have solved this problem but i guess that would be too easy.
Not only that but the lack of an underpass at Wilkes (i think) is an absolute abomination especially during rush hour. To make matters worse i think the railroad offerred to build the underpass at one time and the city told them not to bother. Nice choice but that's the typical decisions made by Winnipeg's City Planner or lack thereof.
Winnipeg also lacks a freeway network that unites the city North to South East to West. Instead it is stop-n-go throughout the entire city and takes a ridiculous amount of time to go from St James to Transcona.
Thats my rant.
PS - There are about 8 lights that should be removed from Portage Avenue as well.
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Post by 3lackThorne on Dec 9, 2004 15:41:13 GMT -5
Winnipeg was an extremely poorly-designed city I'm afraid....
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