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Post by asp0209 on Jan 12, 2006 11:51:00 GMT -5
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Post by jamiebez on Jan 12, 2006 11:59:37 GMT -5
Dang, I just posed this on the "Relocation/Competition" board. If anyone's curious you can find the full text over there...
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Post by leafster on Jan 12, 2006 14:38:03 GMT -5
I always wondered about NJ in the NHL. The fact that the Devils entered the market with two existing teams in the vicinity (Rangers and Islanders) made me wonder how long the Devils would survive. It appears that the cracks are showing through.
Oh, and another thing, I think moving the Devils to Brooklyn would be a very stupid thing on the part of the owners. Last time I checked Brooklyn is still part of Long Island.
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Post by leafster on Jan 12, 2006 14:46:45 GMT -5
"A recent game against Florida drew just 5,251 fans."
According to the NHL web-site:
Florida vs. New Jersey Tuesday, January 3, 2006 Attendance 10,039 at Continental Airlines Arena Start 7:38 PM ET; End 9:47 PM ET Final
Someone is lying.
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Post by the_jaf on Jan 12, 2006 14:54:53 GMT -5
We all know who's lying.
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Post by jason on Jan 12, 2006 15:02:51 GMT -5
Please don't tell me that some people on this board STILL think "announced attendance" means the number of people who travel to the arena, sit in their seat, watch the game, and buy concessions....
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Post by USApegger on Jan 12, 2006 15:27:45 GMT -5
Please don't tell me that some people on this board STILL think "announced attendance" means the number of people who travel to the arena, sit in their seat, watch the game, and buy concessions.... I don't think anyone believes that, what I would like to hear (as I am sure the players do as well) what is the paid attendance at these games. I know that paid attendance and the fans not showing up causes the team to lose a lot of food etc revenue.
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Post by jason on Jan 12, 2006 17:29:50 GMT -5
Yep.
FOOD, BOOZE, PARKING, PROGRAMS, MERCHANDISE.
If only 8,000 are actually at the arena, and care about the game, that's 10,000 people NOT spending money on those things.
And how many of those 8,000 who showed up paid FULL PRICE for their ticket? (at least in the "sunbelt" cities)
Winnipeg will have 15,500 who paid full price for their tickets. Bought merchandise. Bought programs. Paid for food. Paid for beer. Paid for parking.
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Post by USApegger on Jan 12, 2006 18:12:28 GMT -5
Parking won't be a huge revenue generator here as they only get a small portion of any proceeds from Impark.
Merchandise sales are split amongst all 30 teams, so even if the Jet's merchandise flies off the shelves, they still just get 1/30th
The others though would generate some good revenues for the Jets
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Post by joelzillmanwpg on Jan 12, 2006 21:39:41 GMT -5
"A recent game against Florida drew just 5,251 fans." According to the NHL web-site: Florida vs. New Jersey Tuesday, January 3, 2006 Attendance 10,039 at Continental Airlines Arena Start 7:38 PM ET; End 9:47 PM ET Final Someone is lying. The NHL. Their figures are inflated. I've seen the Devils highlights, and there are way more empty seats than fans...
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Post by Paul on Jan 13, 2006 3:20:08 GMT -5
I know it's no excuse and I personally don't care about the Devils. But travelling and parking at Continental Airlines Arena to see a game is a royal pain in the... you know.
It's troublesome to see this, but notice where the bandwagon fans that went to Devils games are... home.
I saw a recent New York Times article on this. I'll track it down and post it when I find it.
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Post by jamiebez on Jan 13, 2006 11:11:03 GMT -5
Looks like we all spoke too soon... the deal is now done. sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2290370NEWARK, N.J. -- The New Jersey Devils finalized their agreement Thursday with the city of Newark for an arena that will be the team's home at the start of the 2007-08 season. The Devils, who currently play at Continental Airlines Arena in East Rutherford, had been negotiating with city officials of Newark for a downtown arena that was more accessible for their fans. The team has agreed to contribute $100 million toward the arena's construction. "The Devils are ecstatic that we have concluded an agreement with the city of Newark that ensures the Newark Arena will be our home starting with the 2007-08 season and for many years to come," Devils chairman Jeff Vanderbeek said. "As I've said in the past, we look forward to Oct. 8, 2007, when our fans will come to Newark and watch the New Jersey Devils play in a world-class setting." The arena is the centerpiece of Newark mayor Sharpe James' plan to rejuvenate the city. "The city and Devils have worked diligently during the past three days to ensure the success of the Downtown Core redevelopment," said Patrick Hobbs, the chair of Newark's downtown core project. "The agreement is fair to all parties, will protect the investment of the taxpayers and allow the Devils to begin play in Newark in October 2007." The New Jersey Nets, who also play at Continental Airlines Arena, have agreed to move to a new facility in Brooklyn by the end of the decade.
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