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Post by bigchris on Mar 4, 2005 15:31:31 GMT -5
Here's my thoughts on the 7 options and judge for yourself:
Kim Clackson: Clacker was the first true enforcer in Jet history. One of the few to score a KO over Fotiu, Semenko AND Bob Gassoff, (other than Clark Gillies the ONLY one I believe.) Joe Daley says he gave the Jets 10 pounds of guts just by showing up and I'm not going to argue with that.
Jimmy Mann: Fergie loved Jimmy like a son because he supposedly reminded him of himself 15 years earlier. He was scary but I don't know if he is in Clacker's league.
Jim Kyte: For a guy who was so tough on the ice he was easily second to Bob Essensa the single nicest person to ever wear a Jet uniform off of it. While his rep was ruined by the Joey Kucur fight wins over Semenko, Butcher, Nilan and Tim Hunter give him a pretty impressive rap sheet.
Gord Donnelly: The bravest man to wear a Jet uniform since Clackson and my all time favorite. His best days as an enforcer were in Quebec but he made people think twice about taking liberties on the Housley era Jets.
Shawn Cronin: Cronin The Barbarian was the most hyped fighter in Jets history before Domi but probably the worst enforcer we ever had. Dispite the cool nickname, (which was stolen from Dwight "Sconan the Barbarian" Scofield,) his fights consisted of Shawn mugging someone and then rolling on the ice with them for a couple of minutes.
Tie Domi: If he wasn't such a jack@ss about the city and the fans off of the ice and so willing to run away from certain guys, (Wendel Clark's cheap shot on Zhamnov and Domi's refusal to even get in his face comes very readily to mind here,) he would be first on my list. Good coulda, woulda, shoulda but he never delivered on the massive amount of hype he recieved.
Scott Campbell: Another coulda, woulda, shoulda that Fergie took a chance on because of his potential. Chalk that up to another guy who got buried because Tom McVie couldn't coach to save his life.
Let the voting begin!
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Post by icecoldian on Mar 4, 2005 16:15:20 GMT -5
Good thread, i was a domi fan. I loved that stupid helmet that he always wore that looked like it was WAY to small and sat like ontop of his head. He was a little guy, but fisety as hell. I never saw the jerk side of him, didn't know he was an Go Jets Go, so i am going to have to put him as my favorite. Him and Kris Kring were great on the ice together.
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Post by bigchris on Mar 4, 2005 16:37:35 GMT -5
My last season working for the Jets was 1992-93 and met Domi numerous times. From what I saw of him off the ice the problems he faces on a regular basis, (especially now with his and his brother Dash facing the possibility of jailtime,) is that he just cannot leave his tough guy act at home or on the ice.
His worst incidents were during his last season here, (the lockout shortened 1995 season,) when he took constant shots at the Jets organization and the fans in Winnipeg for complaining about the salaries. His most infamous quote was "hey, if Winnipeg doesn't want to pay what I want then they should move to Phoenix, they would be HAPPY to pay it."
The other one made the papers but in the discreet 'blink and you'll miss it' fashion that Tkachuk's drunk driving accident got reported. Tie's wife got caught shoplifting and he tried to bully the counter-lady into letting her walk away WITH the stolen item. He played the 'do you know who I am?' card and then supposedly threatened the lady when that didn't work. The police investigated the incident but nothing else was ever reported and the Jets shipped Domi to Toronto very shorly afterward. Interestingly, for a guy who was the Booster Club's choice as most popular Jet the year before, he wasn't cheered at all when the Leafs came to town later in the season. I guess treating the community like dirt and disrespecting the Jet uniform like that will do that...
That said he is definately in Clacker's league in terms of quality enforcers in Jet history. However, I put Clackson up a bit higher because he beat 3 of the 6 most legendary badasses in NHL history on Winnipeg Arena ice.
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Post by toeblake on Mar 4, 2005 17:01:12 GMT -5
What kind of job did you have with the Jets, BigC?
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Post by razorsedge on Mar 6, 2005 13:49:38 GMT -5
i voted for domi...the guy is tough...and can actualy play a little hockey...and he was kinda of a clown on the ice....something to point at when the jets were loseing....but i didn't know he was a bit of an Go Jets Go at times...
kronan sucked....i don't even know why he was on the ice...or why he bothered haveing a stick on the ice...not like he new how to use it....i remember the last year he played...he was trying to be a player and not a fighter...murdocks i think was the coach at the time...he was a moron...
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Post by jetblood on Mar 7, 2005 21:46:35 GMT -5
I voted for Tie Domi but how could you leave Thomas Steen off the list? he was the leader in all time penality minutes as a jet. He was the most physical sweed to ever play the game.
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Post by jets4ever on Mar 8, 2005 15:49:28 GMT -5
Domi.
But, Clacker is close.
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Post by MOC on Mar 8, 2005 17:06:46 GMT -5
I voted for Tie Domi but how could you leave Thomas Steen off the list? he was the leader in all time penality minutes as a jet. He was the most physical sweed to ever play the game. Thomas Steen isn't near the all-time lead in penalty minutes as a Jet. Laurie Boschman holds that distinction - in just over 7 seasons with the Jets, he amassed 1335 penalty minutes. Steen, on the other hand, only had 753 over 14 seasons. Domi, in his three seasons here, almost at as much as Steen.
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Post by jetblood on Mar 8, 2005 22:48:33 GMT -5
yeah true but Steen was secound in jets history for all time penality minutes
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Post by MOC on Mar 9, 2005 15:25:04 GMT -5
yeah true but Steen was secound in jets history for all time penality minutes Nope. Keith Tkachuk had 792, Jim Kyte had 772 and Tim Watters had 760. The only reason Steen is up there is because of the longevity.
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Post by jetblood on Mar 9, 2005 15:38:23 GMT -5
making him the toughest sweed to ever play the game.
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Post by bigchris on Mar 9, 2005 19:11:55 GMT -5
Actually for all time Sweeds I would put Borje Salming ahead of Steen because of how hard he played in the goon squad era of the NHL. After those two, there is everyone else.
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Post by bigchris on Mar 9, 2005 19:16:39 GMT -5
Oh and Toe,
I sold programs, lugged boxes and handed out promo items such as posters, noise makers and pompoms in my 9 years with the Jets. (The older and bigger I got, the tougher my duties got.)
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Post by Yar on Mar 10, 2005 17:35:23 GMT -5
Oh and Toe, I sold programs, lugged boxes and handed out promo items such as posters, noise makers and pompoms in my 9 years with the Jets. (The older and bigger I got, the tougher my duties got.) that must have been a sweet job!! how did it pay? did you have to work the entire game or would you be able to enjoy the game too??
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Post by bigchris on Mar 10, 2005 17:59:20 GMT -5
The job ruled! Since first 5 years I worked I played for the Westdale Community Club and we were contracted to do the grunt work as volunteers but we recieved a about $100.00 per year, (after we bought new team jackets and went nuts with travelling tournaments, EXPENSIVE windups and whatnot.) We had the job because Lyle Moffat and Barry Long's kids played on various levels of Westdale CC at the time, (before the Moffat's left for Calgary and Ferguson was fired.) We would get guided tours of the arena top to bottom, hang out in the "private boxes" and met the players on a regular basis.
As for the work rate itself, when we only had to hand out stuff and put seat hangers on the seats, we only worked before the game. When we had to sell lineup cards and yearbooks and what not, we worked between the first and second periods. Never, while the game was on. The odd aspect of the job was that we had to go find our own seats among the empties in the arena, (a very difficult task in the post season...) I guess that is why I am still a rover at sporting events today. (Changing my seat periodically.)
I have 9 years of memories so I will compile my favorite Jet stories later. Too much to cover in a reply post.
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Post by joelzillmanwpg on Mar 10, 2005 19:20:23 GMT -5
Domi for sure. I remember Jim Kyte having some legondary fights, especially against the Flames Tim Hunter in the 87 playoffs..
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Post by Yar on Mar 10, 2005 19:21:20 GMT -5
awesome!! im looking forward to reading your stories. ;D
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