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Post by wagner3 on Mar 27, 2011 2:04:02 GMT -5
this is good news I think...a sign the deal could be on its last legs...and desperation sets in... Nowicki: McCain intensifies Goldwater criticismby Dan Nowicki, columnist - Mar. 27, 2011 12:00 AM The Arizona Republic U.S. Sen. John McCain has intensified his criticism of the Goldwater Institute for its "disgraceful" refusal to negotiate with Chicago investor Matthew Hulsizer on his pending purchase of the Phoenix Coyotes. McCain, R-Ariz., told The Arizona Republic Friday that the high-stakes deal is on the verge of collapsing because of what he characterized as "basically blackmailing by the Goldwater Institute."
"It's not their role to decide whether the Coyotes should stay in (the Phoenix area) or not," McCain said of the Phoenix-based, libertarian-leaning watchdog group. "No one elected them."Glendale hopes to sell bonds to raise $100 million to help Hulsizer buy the Coyotes from the National Hockey League and keep the team playing at the city's Jobing.com Arena. The Goldwater Institute has signaled that it will challenge the arrangement in court as a violation of the Arizona Constitution. Hulsizer responded by guaranteeing that the team will pay Glendale $75 million in revenue over the course of a 30-year arena lease and that he will cover another $25 million that the city agreed to give the NHL to help offset the Coyotes' financial losses. Goldwater Institute president Darcy Olsen has said the latest overture would not resolve the legal concerns. McCain counters that former Arizona Attorney General Grant Woods, a longtime friend and political ally of his, says it would. One Goldwater Institute official questioned McCain's stance, given his long crusade against government waste. "It's disappointing that someone who has made such a career fighting pork in Washington, D.C., is so willing to support the city of Glendale shoveling $100 million into a Chicago businessman's pocket," said Clint Bolick, the institute's litigation director. "We think it's a bit inconsistent. If he wants the Coyotes to stay, he certainly could consider putting together a group that would buy it on terms that are more favorable to the taxpayers of Glendale."McCain is a well-known fan of the Coyotes and other Arizona pro-sports teams, but he said that's not why he weighed in. "The point is they are going to lose a thousand jobs," McCain said. "A non-elected organization is going to cause it." In other developments: - McCain and U.S. Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., plan to reintroduce their 10-point border-security plan from last year. And they may have a new House sponsor: U.S. Rep. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., a candidate for the retiring Kyl's seat who last week renounced his longtime support for comprehensive immigration reform and took a harder, pro-enforcement stance. "I didn't ask him specifically, but I am confident that he will," said McCain, who also once championed comprehensive reform. "I don't think it's in any way counter to Congressman Flake's position on the issues. He has always said we need to get the border secured." Matt Specht, Flake's chief of staff, said as of Friday details were still being worked out. - Former U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., an anti-illegal-immigration border hawk, dismissed Flake's conversion as "a load of baloney." In a Friday e-mail to supporters, Tancredo declared that defeating Flake will be a top priority of his Team America political-action committee. Read more: www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2011/03/27/20110327nowicki-mccain-intensifies-goldwater-criticism.html#ixzz1HmU8G8XL |
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Post by The Winning Pegs on Mar 27, 2011 2:17:43 GMT -5
this is good news I think...a sign the deal could be on its last legs...and desperation sets in... Nowicki: McCain intensifies Goldwater criticismby Dan Nowicki, columnist - Mar. 27, 2011 12:00 AM The Arizona Republic U.S. Sen. John McCain has intensified his criticism of the Goldwater Institute for its "disgraceful" refusal to negotiate with Chicago investor Matthew Hulsizer on his pending purchase of the Phoenix Coyotes. McCain, R-Ariz., told The Arizona Republic Friday that the high-stakes deal is on the verge of collapsing because of what he characterized as "basically blackmailing by the Goldwater Institute."
"It's not their role to decide whether the Coyotes should stay in (the Phoenix area) or not," McCain said of the Phoenix-based, libertarian-leaning watchdog group. "No one elected them."Glendale hopes to sell bonds to raise $100 million to help Hulsizer buy the Coyotes from the National Hockey League and keep the team playing at the city's Jobing.com Arena. The Goldwater Institute has signaled that it will challenge the arrangement in court as a violation of the Arizona Constitution. Hulsizer responded by guaranteeing that the team will pay Glendale $75 million in revenue over the course of a 30-year arena lease and that he will cover another $25 million that the city agreed to give the NHL to help offset the Coyotes' financial losses. Goldwater Institute president Darcy Olsen has said the latest overture would not resolve the legal concerns. McCain counters that former Arizona Attorney General Grant Woods, a longtime friend and political ally of his, says it would. One Goldwater Institute official questioned McCain's stance, given his long crusade against government waste. "It's disappointing that someone who has made such a career fighting pork in Washington, D.C., is so willing to support the city of Glendale shoveling $100 million into a Chicago businessman's pocket," said Clint Bolick, the institute's litigation director. "We think it's a bit inconsistent. If he wants the Coyotes to stay, he certainly could consider putting together a group that would buy it on terms that are more favorable to the taxpayers of Glendale."McCain is a well-known fan of the Coyotes and other Arizona pro-sports teams, but he said that's not why he weighed in. "The point is they are going to lose a thousand jobs," McCain said. "A non-elected organization is going to cause it." In other developments: - McCain and U.S. Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., plan to reintroduce their 10-point border-security plan from last year. And they may have a new House sponsor: U.S. Rep. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., a candidate for the retiring Kyl's seat who last week renounced his longtime support for comprehensive immigration reform and took a harder, pro-enforcement stance. "I didn't ask him specifically, but I am confident that he will," said McCain, who also once championed comprehensive reform. "I don't think it's in any way counter to Congressman Flake's position on the issues. He has always said we need to get the border secured." Matt Specht, Flake's chief of staff, said as of Friday details were still being worked out. - Former U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., an anti-illegal-immigration border hawk, dismissed Flake's conversion as "a load of baloney." In a Friday e-mail to supporters, Tancredo declared that defeating Flake will be a top priority of his Team America political-action committee. Read more: www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2011/03/27/20110327nowicki-mccain-intensifies-goldwater-criticism.html#ixzz1HmU8G8XL"its not their role" it is their role to challenge the legality of it |
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Post by dcfalk on Mar 27, 2011 2:20:35 GMT -5
ive always hated mccain, something about him screams "sleazeball" he is a politician's politician, crooked to the core
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Post by Charon2000 on Mar 27, 2011 2:23:46 GMT -5
The only reason Goldwater has any power in this is because the deal is illegal.
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Post by cronanthebarbarian on Mar 27, 2011 5:02:58 GMT -5
if McCain was still running for president I doubt he would make those comments..it would provide so much ammo for opponents...wouldnt even be surprised to see attack adds saying mccain wanted to give 197 million tax dollars to a chicago tycoon so he could buy a hockey team
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Post by No Longer Cautious! on Mar 27, 2011 7:07:24 GMT -5
What bugs me is this 1000 jobs crap...just another bs number pulled out of the air...if the operators of the rink do their job and rent the rink for profitable ventures there will minimal effect to an area that draws on average 10000 fans for 50 nights a year
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Post by redbaron on Mar 27, 2011 7:49:14 GMT -5
A sure sign a politician has been in office too long: when he demonstrates contempt for the right of citizens or private organizations to challenge governmental actions.
There is an attitude, and an altitude, out there in established political circles that they are above judgement or review from the people who put them in office. McCain is typical of that...and it exists across the political spectrum.
I think all he'll end up doing is strengthening GWI's resolve.
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Post by folix on Mar 27, 2011 8:08:01 GMT -5
A sure sign a politician has been in office too long: when he demonstrates contempt for the right of citizens or private organizations to challenge governmental actions. There is an attitude, and an altitude, out there in established political circles that they are above judgement or review from the people who put them in office. McCain is typical of that...and it exists across the political spectrum. I think all he'll end up doing is strengthening GWI's resolve. Dont kid yourself someone with really deep pockets and prob a big big campaign contributer is pulling his strings. Most likely a NHL owner or a few of Bettman's friends or hell even the NHL promising a large cash donation to McCains war fund. This dog is barking because someone is stepping on its tail. |
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Post by neils on Mar 27, 2011 9:37:54 GMT -5
He is doing someone a favor here.
If he succeeds he will be awarded indirectly someway or the other.
If he does not succeed his work will be appreciated in another area.
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Post by mstngs84 on Mar 27, 2011 9:44:34 GMT -5
Its not GWI's role to decide if the team should stay or leave. They're not doing that. They are just deciding if the deal is against the law.
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Post by mstngs84 on Mar 27, 2011 9:45:14 GMT -5
Why doesn't John buy the team.
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Post by mstngs84 on Mar 27, 2011 9:45:54 GMT -5
The ones that want the team should pay for it, not the taxpayer
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Post by crazycanuck on Mar 27, 2011 9:54:28 GMT -5
One word "corruption"
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Post by Jordy Ramone on Mar 27, 2011 10:39:33 GMT -5
I think john was ok at some point. But ever since he ran for president he just became one giant puppet. I remember daily show had a segment of him saying something then another video of him saying the opposite.
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Post by davebabych on Mar 27, 2011 11:09:41 GMT -5
McCain reminds me of the Richard Nixon quote, "When the President does it, that means that it is not illegal." I guess McCain feels that when the COG does something, that means that it is not illegal. We all know how it worked out for Nixon.
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Post by hui43210 on Mar 27, 2011 11:29:07 GMT -5
At least this shows that gwi doesn't care what McCain says. And with his choice of running mate, why would anyone care what he says?
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Post by neils on Mar 27, 2011 11:34:03 GMT -5
McCain is old, like CJOB.
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Post by enarwpg on Mar 27, 2011 12:12:03 GMT -5
this is good news I think...a sign the deal could be on its last legs...and desperation sets in... Nowicki: McCain intensifies Goldwater criticismby Dan Nowicki, columnist - Mar. 27, 2011 12:00 AM The Arizona Republic U.S. Sen. John McCain has intensified his criticism of the Goldwater Institute for its "disgraceful" refusal to negotiate with Chicago investor Matthew Hulsizer on his pending purchase of the Phoenix Coyotes. McCain, R-Ariz., told The Arizona Republic Friday that the high-stakes deal is on the verge of collapsing because of what he characterized as "basically blackmailing by the Goldwater Institute."
"It's not their role to decide whether the Coyotes should stay in (the Phoenix area) or not," McCain said of the Phoenix-based, libertarian-leaning watchdog group. "No one elected them."Glendale hopes to sell bonds to raise $100 million to help Hulsizer buy the Coyotes from the National Hockey League and keep the team playing at the city's Jobing.com Arena. The Goldwater Institute has signaled that it will challenge the arrangement in court as a violation of the Arizona Constitution. Hulsizer responded by guaranteeing that the team will pay Glendale $75 million in revenue over the course of a 30-year arena lease and that he will cover another $25 million that the city agreed to give the NHL to help offset the Coyotes' financial losses. Goldwater Institute president Darcy Olsen has said the latest overture would not resolve the legal concerns. McCain counters that former Arizona Attorney General Grant Woods, a longtime friend and political ally of his, says it would. One Goldwater Institute official questioned McCain's stance, given his long crusade against government waste. "It's disappointing that someone who has made such a career fighting pork in Washington, D.C., is so willing to support the city of Glendale shoveling $100 million into a Chicago businessman's pocket," said Clint Bolick, the institute's litigation director. "We think it's a bit inconsistent. If he wants the Coyotes to stay, he certainly could consider putting together a group that would buy it on terms that are more favorable to the taxpayers of Glendale."McCain is a well-known fan of the Coyotes and other Arizona pro-sports teams, but he said that's not why he weighed in. "The point is they are going to lose a thousand jobs," McCain said. "A non-elected organization is going to cause it."In other developments: - McCain and U.S. Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., plan to reintroduce their 10-point border-security plan from last year. And they may have a new House sponsor: U.S. Rep. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., a candidate for the retiring Kyl's seat who last week renounced his longtime support for comprehensive immigration reform and took a harder, pro-enforcement stance. "I didn't ask him specifically, but I am confident that he will," said McCain, who also once championed comprehensive reform. "I don't think it's in any way counter to Congressman Flake's position on the issues. He has always said we need to get the border secured." Matt Specht, Flake's chief of staff, said as of Friday details were still being worked out. - Former U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., an anti-illegal-immigration border hawk, dismissed Flake's conversion as "a load of baloney." In a Friday e-mail to supporters, Tancredo declared that defeating Flake will be a top priority of his Team America political-action committee. Read more: www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2011/03/27/20110327nowicki-mccain-intensifies-goldwater-criticism.html#ixzz1HmU8G8XL...."The point is they are going to lose a thousand jobs," McCain said. " A non-elected organization is going to cause it.".... ...and to think that him and the Republicans (an elected organization), through their policy of hands off the financial industry (failure to regulate both derivatives and mortgage brokers--which allowed excessive financial innovation, risk taking, and greed among financial players from mortgage brokers to Wall Street bankers), helped cause the greatest collapse of the US's and world economy since the Great Depression.... ..... causing hundreds of thousands to lose their jobs and or houses.... ....what a moron...... ...and please don't beat up on me for a political statement........ |
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Post by The Unknown Poster on Mar 27, 2011 13:31:59 GMT -5
What about the GWI's conduct thus far makes these people think attacking them will cause them to back down. GWI seems to be quite content being smarter and more personable than everyone else in this matter.
Sounds like desperation to me. When it's over, that's when you start attacking.
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Post by neils on Mar 27, 2011 20:10:12 GMT -5
A sure sign a politician has been in office too long: when he demonstrates contempt for the right of citizens or private organizations to challenge governmental actions. There is an attitude, and an altitude, out there in established political circles that they are above judgement or review from the people who put them in office. McCain is typical of that...and it exists across the political spectrum. I think all he'll end up doing is strengthening GWI's resolve. Dont kid yourself someone with really deep pockets and prob a big big campaign contributer is pulling his strings. Most likely a NHL owner or a few of Bettman's friends or hell even the NHL promising a large cash donation to McCains war fund. This dog is barking because someone is stepping on its tail. |
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