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Post by Hobble on Nov 10, 2010 17:01:52 GMT -5
Any way they could build the new stadium downtown?!? I'm sure even without an overhang, the surrounding building will at least shield some of the wind and snow...
I don't really see the point of having these establishments out of the way, other than cheaper land... Would love it downtown...
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Post by WpgJets2008 on Nov 10, 2010 19:25:27 GMT -5
If Regina gets their $350 to $400 million dome and we get an open air slashed-budget-made-it-fit stadium then I will be beside myself in anger.
Either renovate the existing one or do the below. Anything else is a bandage in my opinion.
- dome stadium not open air for 365 day use
- revitalize part of Winnipeg with its' location choice: Point Douglas) this would extend a revitalized Downtown or preferably St. Boniface (old Canada Packers site) (The feds contribution is puny so don't ket them bully us. Let's ensure both Manitoba levels of government can find the courage!!)
- parking needs taken fully into account
So as you can see, I wasn't a fan of Asper's plan over that of CanadaInns'.
Winnipeg, let's not think so small!!
Chris
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Post by Hobble on Nov 10, 2010 23:33:15 GMT -5
How can Regina afford such a project and we cant?!?
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Post by WJG on Nov 11, 2010 0:25:29 GMT -5
I'm guessing you live near there?! I live near the University but I'm against the idea of building it there. I love going to games at the stadium and hanging out at Polo Park and the surrounding areas before and after the game. In fact, I think the whole reason the Polo Park area is booming and Portage Place (until the last few years) has struggled is because of the huge amounts of people drawn there by the stadium and arena. I'd love to see that type of economic boost to another part of the city. |
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Post by maxpower on Nov 11, 2010 10:36:36 GMT -5
I'd just like to remind everyone that Asper's 2nd choice after Polo Park was to have it in Point Douglas on the waterfront. There was a big announcement, and it even included an indoor waterpark that Winnipeggers seem to get so excited about. It was very very quickly crapped all over and scrapped because of the 3 nearly-condemned houses that would have had to be torn down. The proud citizens of Point Douglas revolted and told us they didn't want any change in their already-perfect community.
And does it really matter where the stadium is built? It takes less than 30 mins to get from any spot in the city to another so I can't believe that people are still getting worked up over this.
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Post by crazycanuck on Nov 11, 2010 13:14:43 GMT -5
I'd just like to remind everyone that Asper's 2nd choice after Polo Park was to have it in Point Douglas on the waterfront. There was a big announcement, and it even included an indoor waterpark that Winnipeggers seem to get so excited about. It was very very quickly crapped all over and scrapped because of the 3 nearly-condemned houses that would have had to be torn down. The proud citizens of Point Douglas revolted and told us they didn't want any change in their already-perfect community. And does it really matter where the stadium is built? It takes less than 30 mins to get from any spot in the city to another so I can't believe that people are still getting worked up over this. This post by maxpower says it all. Winnipeg is famous for squabbling instead of just getting crap done. Heck that is why we lost the JETS no one could make up their mind on a new Arena and look what happened. |
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Post by razorsedge on Nov 12, 2010 12:51:24 GMT -5
Any way they could build the new stadium downtown?!? I'm sure even without an overhang, the surrounding building will at least shield some of the wind and snow... I don't really see the point of having these establishments out of the way, other than cheaper land... Would love it downtown... I think the UofM location is a good spot. It'll get more use with the Bisons also playing there, as well it'll have a fitness facility attached for use by students and the general public. All transit routes are already in place because it's on the University grounds. Plus with it being close to the perimeter, access to and from is quicker by everybody in the city. Personally I think the UofM location makes the most sense. Heck, maybe it'll even draw bigger crowds consistantly as it's a convienent and fun warm up spot for the students before hitting the bars. |
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Post by jetsorbust on Nov 12, 2010 13:00:18 GMT -5
Any way they could build the new stadium downtown?!? I'm sure even without an overhang, the surrounding building will at least shield some of the wind and snow... I don't really see the point of having these establishments out of the way, other than cheaper land... Would love it downtown... I think the UofM location is a good spot. It'll get more use with the Bisons also playing there, as well it'll have a fitness facility attached for use by students and the general public. All transit routes are already in place because it's on the University grounds. Plus with it being close to the perimeter, access to and from is quicker by everybody in the city. Personally I think the UofM location makes the most sense. Heck, maybe it'll even draw bigger crowds consistantly as it's a convienent and fun warm up spot for the students before hitting the bars. Unfortunately I agree. Living in Transcona the U of M is as far away as something in the city can be for me (I don't miss driving to that stupid campus!). But realistically, with a university football team playing out of the university, it just makes the most sense. Next to building in the heart of god's land Transcona that is! |
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Post by cougar222 on Nov 12, 2010 14:36:52 GMT -5
How can Regina afford such a project and we cant?!? Saskatchewan has oil and potash money now. |
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Post by razorsedge on Nov 13, 2010 9:41:55 GMT -5
How can Regina afford such a project and we cant?!? Saskatchewan has oil and potash money now. And their policticians are a communist regime (The Saskatchewan Party), so spending money on a fancy stadium to help hide their insecurities of being from Saskatchewan, trumps any kind of common of sense. |
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Post by selanne405 on Nov 13, 2010 12:34:29 GMT -5
U of M is the way to go, the university is on average one of the if not busiest places in Winnipeg the place is set up to accomadate over 27, 000 students and all the staff. Transit has a very good set up that makes getting there from anywhere in the city easy.
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Post by shtinky on Nov 13, 2010 16:59:01 GMT -5
This post by maxpower says it all. Winnipeg is famous for squabbling instead of just getting crap done. Heck that is why we lost the JETS no one could make up their mind on a new Arena and look what happened. This city doesn't learn lessons very well. We're basically on track to once again losing a major team due to an inadequate facility whose lengthy lifespan has expired. Of course, once the Bombers have folded someone will figure out a way to get a new stadium and then it's back to square one.  |
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Post by CravenMoorhead on Jan 1, 2011 10:18:40 GMT -5
I'd just like to remind everyone that Asper's 2nd choice after Polo Park was to have it in Point Douglas on the waterfront. There was a big announcement, and it even included an indoor waterpark that Winnipeggers seem to get so excited about. It was very very quickly crapped all over and scrapped because of the 3 nearly-condemned houses that would have had to be torn down. The proud citizens of Point Douglas revolted and told us they didn't want any change in their already-perfect community. . I've heard the Point Douglas plan was mainly scrapped because the costs would have been astronomical. I am talking about $500 million. The problem with the Point Douglas site is they would have had to raze many buildings and homes in the area. Additionally, the city would have had tons of infrastructure expenses, like rerouting Higgins Ave, constructing a foot bridge over the Red River, and tearing all the underground pipes, etc. up. |
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Post by selanne405 on Jan 1, 2011 13:23:19 GMT -5
Is point douglas really the best place for the stadium tho?
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Post by The Unknown Poster on Jan 3, 2011 19:16:16 GMT -5
Point Douglas would have turned a decrepid area into a pretty cool area. But the costs were not worth it and then you had all the people living in those dumps and being inundated by drug addicts and hookers who wanted to "save the neighbourhood"...for some reason.
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Post by CravenMoorhead on Jan 3, 2011 19:47:21 GMT -5
Point Douglas would have turned a decrepid area into a pretty cool area. But the costs were not worth it and then you had all the people living in those dumps and being inundated by drug addicts and hookers who wanted to "save the neighbourhood"...for some reason. You are thinking of North Point Douglas. The stadium would have been built in South Point Douglas, where there are few residential homes, but much industrial buildings. Besides, it was the railroad that ruined the area almost 100 years ago. Without removing the CPR line, it's wishful thinking that a stadium will improve the area. |
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Post by The Unknown Poster on Jan 3, 2011 20:57:01 GMT -5
That area is still pretty craptastic. I used to rent a building on Sutherland. Right area? Just terrible. They should demolish everything in the area and start from scratch. Same with Main st.
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