GForce
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Post by GForce on Mar 17, 2010 12:55:07 GMT -5
Just heard on NHL Home Ice (Sirius radio) that Atlanta, Columbus, and Dallas are all for sale. They did not mention re-location.
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Post by WJG on Mar 17, 2010 12:59:01 GMT -5
Atlanta didn't come as a surprise, as it's possible they may still be our team if the Jets don't come home.
Columbus is a bit more surprising because, but it makes sense because apparently they have been losing money for a while.
Dallas I already knew about.
Maybe the Thrashers are going to relocate this year after all?
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Post by cheswick on Mar 17, 2010 13:00:57 GMT -5
I thought that the ownership situation in Atlanta was still in the courts. Not sure how they can sell them if they don't know who exactly owns them
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Post by Trent Steele on Mar 17, 2010 13:01:57 GMT -5
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Post by cheswick on Mar 17, 2010 13:04:32 GMT -5
I believe that's the originating article where they got the information from. I say another article referencing this same NY Times article.
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Post by Trent Steele on Mar 17, 2010 13:04:50 GMT -5
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Post by WJG on Mar 17, 2010 13:06:04 GMT -5
It should be noted that any sale of the Thrashers whatsoever would more than likely mean relocation.
The Atlanta Spirit own the Philips Arena, so it's unlikely they could find a local owner, because that owner would have to continue paying the Atlanta Spirit to play in the arena.
Here's a new scenario: True North had essentially completed the deal with the Thrashers, but were approached by the NHL to take the Coyotes instead (obviously people would rather have the Jets back, plus they're a better team). Enter Quebec City, who apparently only began discussions with the NHL this season - coincidence?
If only Atlanta moves: Atlanta -> Winnipeg If both Phoenix and Atlanta move -> Phoenix -> Winnipeg, Atlanta -> Quebec City.
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Post by pegger5 on Mar 17, 2010 13:21:50 GMT -5
It should be noted that any sale of the Thrashers whatsoever would more than likely mean relocation. The Atlanta Spirit own the Philips Arena, so it's unlikely they could find a local owner, because that owner would have to continue paying the Atlanta Spirit to play in the arena. Here's a new scenario: True North had essentially completed the deal with the Thrashers, but were approached by the NHL to take the Coyotes instead (obviously people would rather have the Jets back, plus they're a better team). Enter Quebec City, who apparently only began discussions with the NHL this season - coincidence? If only Atlanta moves: Atlanta -> Winnipeg If both Phoenix and Atlanta move -> Phoenix -> Winnipeg, Atlanta -> Quebec City. Hmm, I was just yapping about this on another thread. I believe this to be true... Yotes first, if not then Atlanta.. We are just following NHL lead. This is why all the rumours about the Moose...because it is one of these two teams... I would rather have the Yotes for their talent...but beggers can't be choosers ;D
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Post by WJG on Mar 17, 2010 13:34:03 GMT -5
The funny thing is, if the NHL really did approach True North (meaning Bettman WANTS the Coyotes to move - just like he wanted the Jets to move in 1996), does that make us the villains in this story?
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Post by suitup17 on Mar 17, 2010 13:36:38 GMT -5
Well I could only see Dallas leaving from those teams, but you never know.
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Post by The Unknown Poster on Mar 17, 2010 15:18:12 GMT -5
I wonder how complicated the Thrashers situation really is. All we hear is what a mess it is. But on the surface, is it not rather simple? Spirit wants to ditch the team. Sure, they are feuding with one of the owners over his stake, but do they need his approval to sell? Could they not sell the team and settle the rogue owner's stake issue after the fact?
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Post by Smokie on Mar 17, 2010 18:44:03 GMT -5
The funny thing is, if the NHL really did approach True North (meaning Bettman WANTS the Coyotes to move - just like he wanted the Jets to move in 1996), does that make us the villains in this story? Hell no. Phoenix was just borrowing our team.
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Post by inkymarx on Mar 17, 2010 18:49:52 GMT -5
The funny thing is, if the NHL really did approach True North (meaning Bettman WANTS the Coyotes to move - just like he wanted the Jets to move in 1996), does that make us the villains in this story? Hell no. Phoenix was just borrowing our team. and certainly not when they have to have a $25 a seat, all you can eat night, to get 10 thousand people to show up...... not to mention one of the best teams in the league this season. Bottom line is with the current model that True North has in place with the Moose / MTS Centre, the 1990 Jets would have been in alright shape......The 2010 Coyotes would probably still be loosing money with the same model because they are missing one key element. Hockey Fans.
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Post by Bottsy on Mar 17, 2010 19:04:14 GMT -5
Its only really a question now on how long we will have to wait.
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Post by inkymarx on Mar 17, 2010 19:15:39 GMT -5
Its only really a question now on how long we will have to wait. I agree.... If the COG doesn't agree to pay the Coyotes, then they have to leave before next season. If the COG agrees to pay the Coyotes, Goldwater will stop it and they will have to leave before next season. Worst case scenario the NHL and Ice Edge find some other way to make money, or a new owners steps in and buys the team to keep them in Phoenix (highly un-likely) in which case all this will be happening again next season after they lose even more money.
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Post by Bottsy on Mar 17, 2010 19:28:23 GMT -5
Its only really a question now on how long we will have to wait. I agree.... If the COG doesn't agree to pay the Coyotes, then they have to leave before next season. If the COG agrees to pay the Coyotes, Goldwater will stop it and they will have to leave before next season. Worst case scenario the NHL and Ice Edge find some other way to make money, or a new owners steps in and buys the team to keep them in Phoenix (highly un-likely) in which case all this will be happening again next season after they lose even more money. and the sunbelt teams will continue to bleed money etc etc Bubbles gotta burst eventually..... A which point the Peg jumps in for the kill
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Post by mcguire4 on Mar 17, 2010 22:49:30 GMT -5
The funny thing is, if the NHL really did approach True North (meaning Bettman WANTS the Coyotes to move - just like he wanted the Jets to move in 1996), does that make us the villains in this story? Hell no. Phoenix was just borrowing our team. i prefer to calling it holding them HOSTAGE! it's time they come home, let's get them home.
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Post by tsmof on Mar 18, 2010 13:38:04 GMT -5
Dallas won't leave. They've proven it can work there. Its a different picture than Phoenix, Atlanta and Nashville. If Dallas truely is for sale, enter Mark Cuban who can keep the team there.
I find Atlanta and Nashville a little hard to believe just at todays point in time. Atlanta because the ownership is tied up in court with one owner owing money to the others after a botched attempt at a minority sale
Nashville with 30% of their ownership in bankruptcy, and another 30% with bankrupcty looming should find themself in the same position as phoenix next season.
I dont follow these situations that closely, but unless those issues in Nashville and Atlanta have been solved, I find their sale unlikely.... as of today anyways....
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Post by ~Jiffy~ on Mar 18, 2010 14:39:49 GMT -5
Yesterday at 1:34pm, WJG wrote: The funny thing is, if the NHL really did approach True North (meaning Bettman WANTS the Coyotes to move - just like he wanted the Jets to move in 1996), does that make us the villains in this story?
Hell no. Phoenix was just borrowing our team.
I like to look at it like this:
We let the Yotes borrow our team, as we were in trouble... they just didn't return the team like they were supposed too. NOW we have to beg mom and dad to return what is rightfully ours.
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