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Post by scottie65 on Nov 5, 2009 13:15:54 GMT -5
Better add this team to the above list. Too bad though, because I think this could be a decent hockey market. Oh well, I suspect no one in Columbus shed a tear when the Jets left. Report released warns that Columbus may have trouble keeping its NHL franchiseCOLUMBUS, Ohio — The Associated Press Published on Thursday, Nov. 05, 2009 12:21PM EST A new report warns that Columbus may have trouble holding on to the NHL's Blue Jackets because the club has been losing $12-million (U.S.) per year. The report released Thursday by the Columbus Chamber offers options for strengthening the team's financial position, such as new taxes or fees. Other suggestions include allowing the team to renegotiate its lease for Nationwide Arena or trying to attract a second major tenant for the arena. Blue Jackets president Mike Priest says that the team's current economic model has “significant disadvantages” and that it plans to work with public and private groups to find a solution. www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/blue-jackets-losing-12-million-a-year/article1352315/Here's a copy of the Chamber report. www.columbus.org/media-center/news-archive/?id=63
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Post by Hobble on Nov 5, 2009 13:51:18 GMT -5
I am surprised, I thought Columbus was doing at least average... I would prefer this team to stay there...
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Post by teemu13 on Nov 5, 2009 15:08:56 GMT -5
I was at a game their last season. In fact, it was their very first ever playoff game against Detroit.
An absolutely GORGEOUS building. Everyone has something BLUE JACKETS on, as they seem to do in the US cities.
Sat right behind one of the nets, bought tickets the night before, on Ticketmaster, and sat beside two women who were there because their husbands wanted to watch the Penguins game on TV.
Very much a college town. Even the cheering is very basketball-like, which of course makes sense.
Ohio has been severely hit by the recession, and the fact the Jackets don't own Nationwide does not help.
This was an odd choice as a market to begin with, but I think it could work there long-term.
My five cents worth.
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Post by gee on Nov 5, 2009 16:51:01 GMT -5
I am surprised, I thought Columbus was doing at least average... I would prefer this team to stay there... they are doing average - unfortunately for the NHL this is average.
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Post by jaylon1970 on Nov 5, 2009 23:08:23 GMT -5
Better add this team to the above list. Too bad though, because I think this could be a decent hockey market. Oh well, I suspect no one in Columbus shed a tear when the Jets left. Report released warns that Columbus may have trouble keeping its NHL franchiseCOLUMBUS, Ohio — The Associated Press Published on Thursday, Nov. 05, 2009 12:21PM EST A new report warns that Columbus may have trouble holding on to the NHL's Blue Jackets because the club has been losing $12-million (U.S.) per year. The report released Thursday by the Columbus Chamber offers options for strengthening the team's financial position, such as new taxes or fees. Other suggestions include allowing the team to renegotiate its lease for Nationwide Arena or trying to attract a second major tenant for the arena. Blue Jackets president Mike Priest says that the team's current economic model has “significant disadvantages” and that it plans to work with public and private groups to find a solution. www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/blue-jackets-losing-12-million-a-year/article1352315/Here's a copy of the Chamber report. www.columbus.org/media-center/news-archive/?id=63columbus came into the league in 1999, while jets left in 1996.... and don't underestimate columbus blue jacket fans.... at least the fan base can afford NHL tickets compared to some little canadian towns i know...
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Post by Smokie on Nov 5, 2009 23:19:54 GMT -5
What the hell are your comments supposed to mean Jaylon. My brain hurts every time I read a post from you. 
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Post by jaylon1970 on Nov 5, 2009 23:27:01 GMT -5
What the hell are your comments supposed to mean Jaylon. My brain hurts every time I read a post from you.  i'm pissed off the person who started the thread by demeaning columbus since "it didnt' shed a tear when the jets left." there is a segment of people on this board believe columbus is not a true"hockey market" because the fanbase in winnipeg are somewhat "superior" compared to other US, southern "non hockey" markets....
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Post by Dcmac on Nov 6, 2009 2:13:24 GMT -5
He's saying Columbus never shed a tear for us so why should we shed a tear for them, it's a shame but oh well...
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Post by jaylon1970 on Nov 6, 2009 2:20:03 GMT -5
He's saying Columbus never shed a tear for us so why should we shed a tear for them, it's a shame but oh well... we don't know that...
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Post by vivianmb on Nov 6, 2009 3:19:41 GMT -5
Better add this team to the above list. Too bad though, because I think this could be a decent hockey market. Oh well, I suspect no one in Columbus shed a tear when the Jets left. Report released warns that Columbus may have trouble keeping its NHL franchiseCOLUMBUS, Ohio — The Associated Press Published on Thursday, Nov. 05, 2009 12:21PM EST A new report warns that Columbus may have trouble holding on to the NHL's Blue Jackets because the club has been losing $12-million (U.S.) per year. The report released Thursday by the Columbus Chamber offers options for strengthening the team's financial position, such as new taxes or fees. Other suggestions include allowing the team to renegotiate its lease for Nationwide Arena or trying to attract a second major tenant for the arena. Blue Jackets president Mike Priest says that the team's current economic model has “significant disadvantages” and that it plans to work with public and private groups to find a solution. www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/blue-jackets-losing-12-million-a-year/article1352315/Here's a copy of the Chamber report. www.columbus.org/media-center/news-archive/?id=63columbus came into the league in 1999, while jets left in 1996.... and don't underestimate columbus blue jacket fans.... at least the fan base can afford NHL tickets compared to some little canadian towns i know... watch it.
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Post by subwayscoundrel on Nov 9, 2009 15:24:33 GMT -5
I have read that the deal between Nationwide (who I think owns the arena) and the CBJ is really odd and does not work as well as other deals.
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Post by JETStender on Nov 10, 2009 1:26:30 GMT -5
I have read that the deal between Nationwide (who I think owns the arena) and the CBJ is really odd and does not work as well as other deals. Nationwide Arena is privately financed, the Blue Jackets do not get naming rights, parking fees and some luxury-box fees that almost every other pro sports club draws as revenue. They also PAY somewhere between $4.2M and $5M per year in rent. This sounds eerily similar to the JETS situation with WEC.
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Post by trebendan on May 22, 2010 22:34:56 GMT -5
If we don't get the Coyotes here in the next year or 2, I think the Bluejackets are another team to really watch for. They may now be higher on the relocation scale than Atlanta, in my opinion, as Atlanta is apparently about to get some new investors.
Its understandable why the NHL is working hard to keep teams in Atlanta, Miami, Dallas and Phoenix, as those are major, major US markets. Columbus, however, is not, and unlike losing a team in Atlanta or Dallas, losing a team in Columbus would not be as embarrassing for the NHL, I would suspect.
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Post by quarkie on May 24, 2010 1:41:08 GMT -5
From what I remembering hearing the Blue Jackets are really good for Columbus. Nationwide Arena helped revitalize an area with its presence, while basically receiving no support from the city to do it (Nationwide built it with private funds). I really hope that the city starts getting their act together and realize how important they are to the area.
I want a team in Winnipeg as bad as anyone else, but I wouldn't group Columbus in with the sunbelt teams.
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Post by davebabych on May 27, 2010 2:35:37 GMT -5
This sounds eerily similar to the JETS situation with WEC. I was thinking the same thing. Columbus has always attracted decent sized crowds; unfortunately, in todays NHL you need more than fan support to succeed. Without additional revenue streams, Columbus may end following Winnipeg's footsteps.
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Post by Comrade Fox on Jul 26, 2010 22:39:11 GMT -5
Well i thought of an idea for revenue for columbus after someone suggested they move to cleveland:
14 Home Games in Columbus 14 Home Games in Cleveland 13 Home Games in Cincinnati
They would then not only be representing Columbus, but all of Ohio and the NHL caliber hockey would please ticket buyers in the other 2 major Ohio cities. Cleveland's problem was the location of their arena, ~40 miles outside of Cleveland in Richfield.
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Post by teemu13 on Jul 27, 2010 20:28:37 GMT -5
Well i thought of an idea for revenue for columbus after someone suggested they move to cleveland: 14 Home Games in Columbus 14 Home Games in Cleveland 13 Home Games in Cincinnati They would then not only be representing Columbus, but all of Ohio and the NHL caliber hockey would please ticket buyers in the other 2 major Ohio cities. Cleveland's problem was the location of their arena, ~40 miles outside of Cleveland in Richfield. The Arena/Coliseum in Cinci is a hole... I like your idea otherwise!
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Post by Comrade Fox on Jul 27, 2010 20:40:48 GMT -5
Well i thought of an idea for revenue for columbus after someone suggested they move to cleveland: 14 Home Games in Columbus 14 Home Games in Cleveland 13 Home Games in Cincinnati They would then not only be representing Columbus, but all of Ohio and the NHL caliber hockey would please ticket buyers in the other 2 major Ohio cities. Cleveland's problem was the location of their arena, ~40 miles outside of Cleveland in Richfield. The Arena/Coliseum in Cinci is a hole... I like your idea otherwise! This is the thing: Either really renovate Cincinnati Gardens, or build a new arena. Who knows, maybe they can get an NBA team back
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Post by subwayscoundrel on Aug 6, 2010 7:19:49 GMT -5
Well i thought of an idea for revenue for columbus after someone suggested they move to cleveland: 14 Home Games in Columbus 14 Home Games in Cleveland 13 Home Games in Cincinnati They would then not only be representing Columbus, but all of Ohio and the NHL caliber hockey would please ticket buyers in the other 2 major Ohio cities. Cleveland's problem was the location of their arena, ~40 miles outside of Cleveland in Richfield. Will never happen. It dilutes the teams sponsors and also, so much money comes from suites and you just lowered that revenue by fewer games in your home arena. Also, so you have to go to other arenas and pay rent. Not sure there are even suites in Cincy. So in Cleveland, a team would have to have ice. Not sure there is ice under the Cavs floor and you would have to pay rent on the arena and set up costs. Suites are run and rented by the Cavs so they would get a cut if you could sell some just for hockey. Too many variables. That is why teams don't play all over. Barely worked in the 1960s and 1970s and does not work now.
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Post by Hobble on Aug 6, 2010 11:43:18 GMT -5
Seems like unless the owners of the team actually own the arena, they could find themselves in a hole...
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