smokey
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Post by smokey on Jun 7, 2011 10:26:40 GMT -5
It was a little late, but not that bad. To the genius who thinks Rome is a Fourth Liner, you obviously know nothing about hockey so your opinion is meaningless. Rome plays defense. The reason he's injured is because his HEAD HIT THE ICE! Don't skate across the blueline with your head down, it's his own fault. Cherry said it best, Thorton taunting Rome on the bench got him pissed and fired up to hit the next Bruin he could. Another example of an injury resulting in a penalty. If Horton had got right back up there never would have been a call... and we'd be talking about how great that hit was!
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Post by The Winning Pegs on Jun 7, 2011 10:30:34 GMT -5
It was a little late, but not that bad. To the genius who thinks Rome is a Fourth Liner, you obviously know nothing about hockey so your opinion is meaningless. Rome plays defense. The reason he's injured is because his HEAD HIT THE ICE! Don't skate across the blueline with your head down, it's his own fault. Cherry said it best, Thorton taunting Rome on the bench got him pissed and fired up to hit the next Bruin he could. Another example of an injury resulting in a penalty. If Horton had got right back up there never would have been a call... and we'd be talking about how great that hit was! nicely said, in my opinion, now we see if colin campbell had any influence, because this hit is similar to the Chara hit on Montreal
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Post by jetsorbust on Jun 7, 2011 10:34:32 GMT -5
It was a little late, but not that bad. To the genius who thinks Rome is a Fourth Liner, you obviously know nothing about hockey so your opinion is meaningless. Rome plays defense. The reason he's injured is because his HEAD HIT THE ICE! Don't skate across the blueline with your head down, it's his own fault. Cherry said it best, Thorton taunting Rome on the bench got him pissed and fired up to hit the next Bruin he could. Another example of an injury resulting in a penalty. If Horton had got right back up there never would have been a call... and we'd be talking about how great that hit was! Exactly. That was a textbook hockey hit. Was it late? I honestly am not so sure... honestly someone use a stopwatch but I would bet my life it was less than 1.5 seconds after he passed the puck, it seemed like 1 second. Aside from the timing, it was absolutely a clean hit though. So if anything, 2 minutes for interference...
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Post by boomersbroncos on Jun 7, 2011 10:36:17 GMT -5
Smokey go smoke something.....he is a fourth line Def.....eight on the depth chart all year only in due to injuries late in the year...He doesn't even compair in value of that to what Horton does to his team.....LOL name the time and place as to how much I know about Hockey....Clown
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Post by jetsorbust on Jun 7, 2011 10:37:05 GMT -5
It was a little late, but not that bad. To the genius who thinks Rome is a Fourth Liner, you obviously know nothing about hockey so your opinion is meaningless. Rome plays defense. The reason he's injured is because his HEAD HIT THE ICE! Don't skate across the blueline with your head down, it's his own fault. Cherry said it best, Thorton taunting Rome on the bench got him pissed and fired up to hit the next Bruin he could. Another example of an injury resulting in a penalty. If Horton had got right back up there never would have been a call... and we'd be talking about how great that hit was! nicely said, in my opinion, now we see if colin campbell had any influence, because this hit is similar to the Chara hit on Montreal See that's where I disagree... I don't see the similarity at all. It wasn't the lateness of Chara's hit that made me think it was dirty... if that happened inside the blue line it would have been whatever. But when you ram a guys head into a pole... that's different than hitting him in open ice in my opinion.
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Post by boomersbroncos on Jun 7, 2011 10:39:49 GMT -5
Oh and I just talked to one of my Best Friends who happens to be a NHL Ref......Said it was horrible not clean and is pissed cause Go Jets Go like this will only make his job harder next year cause it won't be forgotten......you nuks fans are a joke....I was hoping the cup would come back to Canada....but not this way and not by that team
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Post by jetsorbust on Jun 7, 2011 10:44:29 GMT -5
Oh and I just talked to one of my Best Friends who happens to be a NHL Ref......Said it was horrible not clean and is pissed cause Go Jets Go like this will only make his job harder next year cause it won't be forgotten......you nuks fans are a joke....I was hoping the cup would come back to Canada....but not this way and not by that team Come off it man, this has nothing to do with "nuks" fans. So you think Chara's hit was cleaner than Romes?
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Post by The Winning Pegs on Jun 7, 2011 10:45:22 GMT -5
nicely said, in my opinion, now we see if colin campbell had any influence, because this hit is similar to the Chara hit on Montreal See that's where I disagree... I don't see the similarity at all. It wasn't the lateness of Chara's hit that made me think it was dirty... if that happened inside the blue line it would have been whatever. But when you ram a guys head into a pole... that's different than hitting him in open ice in my opinion. both were interference resulting in concussions, one things for sure, its not rule 48, like mcguire said. I think its late, and the reffs were correct in the sending off, and no more supplemental dicipline needs to be given out. that was a weird game though, nucks deserved to loose about 3-1 or 2-1 not 8-1 huh
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Post by mcguire4 on Jun 7, 2011 11:00:55 GMT -5
was a clean hit, "slightly" and i mean slightly late. Horton should have had his head up. yes, it looks very similar to Peca's hit on Selanne and nowhere near as bad as Stevens hit on Lindros. the blame lays squarely on Horton.
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Post by KillerBrew on Jun 7, 2011 11:25:03 GMT -5
Total lack of respect. This shouldn't even be labeled as "finishing your check." I'm not surprised and it'll happen again. The NHL has no balls to do anything about it.
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Post by labatt50 on Jun 7, 2011 11:44:14 GMT -5
I just want to know how to throw a late hit, that isn't dirty! How is it even possible? If Chara had done that to one of the Bobsey Twins, every sissy on the west coast would be crying in their chai tea over this for a fortnight. In fact, I'd love to see that happen.
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Post by schlitsz on Jun 7, 2011 11:53:57 GMT -5
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smokey
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Post by smokey on Jun 7, 2011 12:11:01 GMT -5
Oh and I just talked to one of my Best Friends who happens to be a NHL Ref......Said it was horrible not clean and is pissed cause Go Jets Go like this will only make his job harder next year cause it won't be forgotten......you nuks fans are a joke....I was hoping the cup would come back to Canada....but not this way and not by that team Well I just talked to my best friend, who happens to be Colin Campbell, and he said he suspended Rome for the rest of the series because his son plays for Boston!
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Post by The Winning Pegs on Jun 7, 2011 12:44:15 GMT -5
AND HES Go Jets Go SUSPENDED FOR THE REST OF THE SERIES WHAT A BUNCH OF Go Jets Go
exact same play as Chara, and boom chara gets 0 games in the regular season, and then rome gets 4 STANLEY CUP FINAL games this is Go Jets Go
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Post by ducky75 on Jun 7, 2011 12:46:07 GMT -5
Oh and I just talked to one of my Best Friends who happens to be a NHL Ref......Said it was horrible not clean and is pissed cause Go Jets Go like this will only make his job harder next year cause it won't be forgotten......you nuks fans are a joke....I was hoping the cup would come back to Canada....but not this way and not by that team Come off it man, this has nothing to do with "nuks" fans. So you think Chara's hit was cleaner than Romes? Yes, by far. If that Chara hit happened anywhere else on the ice, there'd be no issue with it - both players were pursuing the puck. I can count to two from the time Horton let go of the puck to the time he is hit, he crosses half the neutralo zone between release and impact, Rome left his feet, and made deliberate contact with the head. Yes, this is far dirtier than the Chara hit.
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Post by schlitsz on Jun 7, 2011 13:16:54 GMT -5
The NHL just needs to be more consistent with their discipline on these kinds of hits. I don't think the Chara hit was the exact same hit as this. I do, however, believe that the Chara hit deserved at least a 2 or 3 game suspension. The replays of that hit make it pretty obvious that he knew what he was doing, even if his intent wasn't to injure - which I believe it wasn't. Still a dirty hit.
This hit was every bit as dirty, imo. Rome was sizing up Horton before he even dished the puck off. Then he left his feet to finish him off. To say that Horton should not have been admiring his pass is kind of cruel. I don't think he was admiring his pass, it's not like it was anything spectacular. Just dishing it off to gain entry into the zone.
Anyway, it's scary to see any player unresponsive on the ice like that. And they zoomed in on him with his eyes rolled back. That probably wasn't necessary. Once they realized he was in trouble, they could've taken the cameras off of him - or at least zoomed further out. And again, I'm not pro-B's only on these things. I do happen to be rooting for them in the final. But it was just as scary, if not worse, to see Pacioretty motionless on the ice after the Chara hit. I honestly thought I saw someone die that night. Thankfully, I didn't.
Hopefully the B's come out fired up again tomorrow. After all, they did win 8-1 WITHOUT one of their best players. Score was 0-0 when he left the game was it not?
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Post by glenman2001 on Jun 7, 2011 13:43:14 GMT -5
It was late, but nowhere near 4 games late. It wasn't the hit that injured him it was hitting the ice, but the NHL had to react I guess, but the penalty defiantly does not fit the crime, little late but it wasn't like he took a run at him, got to keep your head up every hockey player learns that at a young age.
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Post by jetsorbust on Jun 7, 2011 13:45:11 GMT -5
Come off it man, this has nothing to do with "nuks" fans. So you think Chara's hit was cleaner than Romes? Yes, by far. If that Chara hit happened anywhere else on the ice, there'd be no issue with it - both players were pursuing the puck. I can count to two from the time Horton let go of the puck to the time he is hit, he crosses half the neutralo zone between release and impact, Rome left his feet, and made deliberate contact with the head. Yes, this is far dirtier than the Chara hit. Well, I completely disagree but I suppose that is just opinion. What can't be debated is this --> you may have been able to count to 2 but TSN themselves, when saying the hit was late, said it was "almost a full second" from the pass to the hit. I watched it over and over last night in real time, it was at most 1 second (right around a full second though, so I would agree with TSN on the timing). The Chara hit wouldn't have been that bad if it happened anywhere else but guess what? It didn't! And realistically, NHL players know where they are on the ice... their pretty friggin good at hockey. I don't think the Rome hit was that bad, I truly don't. Horton should have had his head up, as you saw Raymond did all game (he dodged 2 or 3 similiar hits in that game alone). So no, I truly don't believe the Rome hit was that bad, but can we all at least admit the NHL is idiotic when it comes to star players getting off easy on suspensions and non-star players getting harsher suspensions? I'm not saying that because of "canuck bias" (I no longer really care that much about any team but the Jets!) but the two-tiered suspension system has gone on for far too long.
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Post by Bob E on Jun 7, 2011 13:49:36 GMT -5
Chara's hit vs Rome's hit are two different plays. Chara's hit was dirty because he threw the player whom he had a history with into the pole. That's a dirty play worthy of suspension. He knew what he was doing. If max p just went into the boards and fell - 2 min penalty for interference.
Rome's hit was late, as a forward you are not expecting to be hit then, you passed the puck and have taken two strides, cross cut to pick up speed to break to net. Dmen now are not to impede your path to the net. Otherwise its interference. He got 5 for interference. Obviously the refs and league thought it was late. So why debate it. That's a dirty play by rome too. Took his shot to smoke a player. Now he's paying the price by being suspended.
How chara wasn't suspended on his hit vs habs? Colin campbell. Don't think he hasn't caught crap for that - and is now doing something else. His move to another position was likely in the works for a while.
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Post by Bob E on Jun 7, 2011 14:10:24 GMT -5
The only reason it was 4 games was so he would not return this series. Was it a 4 game hit, probably not. I would have gave 1 or 2.
NHL needs to fix their suspension model. Good luck with that shanny.
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