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Post by JimmyMann on Mar 29, 2011 9:57:29 GMT -5
BTW, Gary....how's that Sun belt experiment working out? Here is the original Coyotes ticket prices from 1996. Prices really havn't changed much over the past 15 years. Attachments:
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Post by crazycanuck on Mar 29, 2011 10:19:21 GMT -5
Well no. This isn't the coyotes selling tickets for $7. This is a ticket holder who has a ticket selling their ticket for $7. It has ZERO to do with the coyotes wanting people to come for concessions. If you want to know what Coyotes sell tickets for go to ticketmaster and compare those prices to Moose ticket prices. I've been to many Moose games and every time got free tickets so this is no different than that. Look at stubhub prices for Canadian and traditional US markets. More often than not you pay a premium over face value. Phoenix is the extreme opposite - no one wants to go, so tickets are practically given away by their owners. Pretty clear illustration of supply and demand, if you ask me. And as for Moose tickets, who gave you free tickets? I'm guessing that they didn't come from total strangers. Those of us without hookups generally have to pay full price. Moose have many 2 for 1 deals...as a matter of fact I just bought a 2 for 1 for tomorrow's game..Spring Break special I think it was called.
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Post by neufeld on Mar 29, 2011 10:29:55 GMT -5
I am not a marketing guy, but if a team keeps giving away tickets, giving insane discounts/packages, etc, year after year, there becomes a point when the team and tickets are assumed to be worthless by the population. This isn't crack cocaine where the first one is free and then the dealer can charge whatever they want now that you are addicted. Many sports teams have tried these types of deep discounts, and they come back to bite you in the butt. If after 15 years they don't have a solid fan base, there will never be one. Why don't they just admit it and move on?
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Post by tim on Mar 29, 2011 10:34:05 GMT -5
I am not a marketing guy, but if a team keeps giving away tickets, giving insane discounts/packages, etc, year after year, there becomes a point when the team and tickets are assumed to be worthless by the population. This isn't crack cocaine where the first one is free and then the dealer can charge whatever they want now that you are addicted. Many sports teams have tried these types of deep discounts, and they come back to bite you in the butt. If after 15 years they don't have a solid fan base, there will never be one. Why don't they just admit it and move on? Hey right now the ticket in Glendale is more of a lost leader, they are more focused on getting someone in the building and hopefully they will spend there money on food merchandise or anything elses right now to cut back on the losses.
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Post by buffalobrian on Mar 29, 2011 10:45:09 GMT -5
Thats got to piss off the owners of the Canadian teams that are supporting there Asses! One important point to remember in all of this about the Coyotes losing money is that the more money the league takes in the more money they have to pay out in player's salaries, since the salary cap is directly tied to total league revenues. It's important to remember the impact having a team selling out every game vs. one that is breaking even (i realize that isn't the case here) has on the overall impact of the league.
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Post by Trent Steele on Mar 29, 2011 10:50:59 GMT -5
I am not a marketing guy, but if a team keeps giving away tickets, giving insane discounts/packages, etc, year after year, there becomes a point when the team and tickets are assumed to be worthless by the population. This isn't crack cocaine where the first one is free and then the dealer can charge whatever they want now that you are addicted. Many sports teams have tried these types of deep discounts, and they come back to bite you in the butt. If after 15 years they don't have a solid fan base, there will never be one. Why don't they just admit it and move on? Hey right now the ticket in Glendale is more of a lost leader, they are more focused on getting someone in the building and hopefully they will spend there money on food merchandise or anything elses right now to cut back on the losses. Apparently it's not even about getting people in the building, it's about getting them in the general vicinity of the arena.
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Post by texanjet on Mar 29, 2011 10:53:00 GMT -5
Hey right now the ticket in Glendale is more of a lost leader, they are more focused on getting someone in the building and hopefully they will spend there money on food merchandise or anything elses right now to cut back on the losses. Apparently it's not even about getting people in the building, it's about getting them in the general vicinity of the arena. Yup as someone said recently the Coyotes are the anchor tenant....for a mall.
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Post by cheswick on Mar 29, 2011 11:09:13 GMT -5
Well no. This isn't the coyotes selling tickets for $7. This is a ticket holder who has a ticket selling their ticket for $7. It has ZERO to do with the coyotes wanting people to come for concessions. If you want to know what Coyotes sell tickets for go to ticketmaster and compare those prices to Moose ticket prices. I've been to many Moose games and every time got free tickets so this is no different than that. Look at stubhub prices for Canadian and traditional US markets. More often than not you pay a premium over face value. Phoenix is the extreme opposite - no one wants to go, so tickets are practically given away by their owners. Pretty clear illustration of supply and demand, if you ask me. And as for Moose tickets, who gave you free tickets? I'm guessing that they didn't come from total strangers. Those of us without hookups generally have to pay full price. My point isn't that hockey is a hot seller in Phoenix. My point was that the poster was incorrect in saying it was a marketing ploy by the Coyotes to get people into the games. That is simply wrong. If it was upto the Coyotes they wouldn't want these second hand ticket sites operating with people hawking extremely discounted tickets. It isn't the Coyotes that are selling these really cheap tickets its someone who has a ticket and isn't going to use it. Too many people think this is regular prices for Coyotes tickets and the coyotes are the ones selling at these prices. He compared these second hand tickets to full price Moose tickets. Its comparing apples to oranges. I don't like when people distort facts to try making a case. I don't disagree that many markets the second hand ticket sales are at a premium. I went to a habs game in Montreal and paid twice the face value.
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Post by enarwpg on Mar 29, 2011 11:29:03 GMT -5
I am not a marketing guy, but if a team keeps giving away tickets, giving insane discounts/packages, etc, year after year, there becomes a point when the team and tickets are assumed to be worthless by the population. This isn't crack cocaine where the first one is free and then the dealer can charge whatever they want now that you are addicted. Many sports teams have tried these types of deep discounts, and they come back to bite you in the butt. If after 15 years they don't have a solid fan base, there will never be one. Why don't they just admit it and move on? Obviously you're unaware that Mayor Scruggs and the fans have said that with a new, financially sound owner, more adept management and better on-ice product fans will come out in droves. ....however it ramains to be seen if the new $20 parking charge will be used as an excuse for not showing up......
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