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Post by matrix on Mar 2, 2011 11:11:50 GMT -5
So you re saying before they started upgrading the Press Box at MTS we weren't even CLOSE to being ready? I think you're looking at this situation thru a straw. Whats going on in the NHL right now involves a lot more than just WPG. Relax, we'll get our team, but that won't be the end of the NHL's problems. I am relaxed, I'm saying Quebec is NOT 100% ready for the NHL. I'm not looking at it through a straw. Realistically IMO Quebec City is 15% ready for an NHL team. Owner? Arena? Name? I am sorry that it is not 100%. Please provide FACTS with your rebuttal. Ok I got it now, you are stupid
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Post by wpgmike on Mar 2, 2011 11:12:38 GMT -5
How in the world can you say Quebec is 100% ready now, when you readily admit that the Colisee needs 4-10 million to make it NHL ready and could be done in a few months? You contradict yourself. I do wish Quebec all the luck in the world, but you MUST face reality, that you are NOT even close to being 100% ready. Are you stupid or what ? The 4-10 millions investment in the old building will never happen before the NHL accept to relocate a team here Exactly! Thank you for starting to have a melt down and call me stupid, just because I disagree with you. Very mature.
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Post by wallyweir on Mar 2, 2011 11:14:53 GMT -5
I fully understand why you are jealous wpgmike. I think you should drink some tea and listen to some classical music, gonna be good for ya!
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Post by canuck5 on Mar 2, 2011 11:15:04 GMT -5
I am relaxed, I'm saying Quebec is NOT 100% ready for the NHL. I'm not looking at it through a straw. Realistically IMO Quebec City is 15% ready for an NHL team. Owner? Arena? Name? I am sorry that it is not 100%. Please provide FACTS with your rebuttal. Ok I got it now, you are stupid ^^^^^^^^^^ Can we get a ban hammer over here, please?
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Post by jetsorbust on Mar 2, 2011 11:23:20 GMT -5
How in the world can you say Quebec is 100% ready now, when you readily admit that the Colisee needs 4-10 million to make it NHL ready and could be done in a few months? You contradict yourself. I do wish Quebec all the luck in the world, but you MUST face reality, that you are NOT even close to being 100% ready. So you re saying before they started upgrading the Press Box at MTS we weren't even CLOSE to being ready? I think you're looking at this situation thru a straw. Whats going on in the NHL right now involves a lot more than just WPG. Relax, we'll get our team, but that won't be the end of the NHL's problems. I think to take either side of this is not quite right, the truth is somewhere more in the middle. Quebec seems to be ready to accept a team, as we all know a team would be better off for a couple years in the Pepsi Center than in the town it came from (Phoenix, Atl or Miami, etc). So in that sense, yes they are ready. But, the building is not built, or even begun. From what I understand, the final engineering/architectural drawings are not even completed / approved. And it is essentially going to be 100% government funded, with a rent agreement from Quebecor (one in which I think the government is getting completely and totally ripped off on, but that's another story). So, yes - if the new arena is happening, Quebec is ready to support a team. But they are not "ready" because a pretty darn big piece of the puzzle isn't ready - the arena. Let's not get crazy here, adding some press box additions is not the same as still having to build the whole arena. Quebec's arena is not ready (or even begun) so in that sense they are not ready, but they do have a temporary solution. My opinion? Quebec would be better off getting a team in 2-4 years, when they are completely ready. However, if there is truly a team in the NHL that desperately needs a new owner (as many have alluded to is the case with Atlanta and Phoenix), then Quebec is easily a viable place to move the team. Yes the NHL would lose it's leverage to force QC to build a team (then QC could drag it's feet on building), but the QC would be the only losers from doing that - obviously the new arena would generate more money for the team than the old one.
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Post by wpgmike on Mar 2, 2011 11:24:01 GMT -5
I fully understand why you are jealous wpgmike. I think you should drink some tea and listen to some classical music, gonna be good for ya! Why would I be jealous?
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Post by smokey on Mar 2, 2011 11:30:14 GMT -5
Quebecor has only committed to the naming rights of the arena, that may or may not be built. Look at Saskabush and their Stadium that isn't going to be built now. Things change, deals fall through, cost-overuns, economic bubbles and recessions. Lets face the truth, QC is not nearly 100% ready for a team. Why would the NHL move to a 60 year old arena when there's a nice new one in Kansas City just begging for a tenant? As much as I want the NHL to return to Winnipeg, and would like QC to get theirs back as well, we have to remember who is running the show, Mr. Anti-Canadian Gary Butman.
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Post by DrGui on Mar 2, 2011 11:30:53 GMT -5
Relax mike .. nothing wrong with tea and classical music ... now where did I put my Troll hammer?? ;D
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Post by mann1986 on Mar 2, 2011 11:38:52 GMT -5
Quebec is NOT on the NHL list of locations at this point. I know this for a fact.
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Post by 14pac03 on Mar 2, 2011 11:51:17 GMT -5
Quebec is NOT on the NHL list of locations at this point. I know this for a fact.
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Post by shtinky on Mar 2, 2011 12:23:19 GMT -5
Anyone who thinks QC couldn't take on a NHL team right now is in complete denial. Compared to some of the shitholes used as temporary NHL rinks over the years (Thunderdome, Cow Palace, Ottawa Civic Centre, America West Arena), the Colisee is a palace. It has more seats than MTSC and it is more than adequate as a home for the time being.
Bottom line, Quebec is totally ready. I don't see the point in pretending they aren't.
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Post by jetsorbust on Mar 2, 2011 12:33:45 GMT -5
Anyone who thinks QC couldn't take on a NHL team right now is in complete denial. Compared to some of the shitholes used as temporary NHL rinks over the years (Thunderdome, Cow Palace, Ottawa Civic Centre, America West Arena), the Colisee is a palace. It has more seats than MTSC and it is more than adequate as a home for the time being. Bottom line, Quebec is totally ready. I don't see the point in pretending they aren't. That was my point, of course they have an adequate temporary facility. But they are not ready because their arena is not done. That does not mean they can not accomodate a team right now, as you have pointed out they easily could temporarily. But, they still need an arena. Maybe they can get a team before the arena is done, but they need an arena started. Maybe they can get a team before an arena is started but they need it to be guaranteed.... you can keep going with this, but the point is right now, as certain as the arena looks, there is nothing concrete. If they get a shovel in the ground, I would say they are 100% ready.
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Post by wpgmike on Mar 2, 2011 12:52:56 GMT -5
Anyone who thinks QC couldn't take on a NHL team right now is in complete denial. Compared to some of the shitholes used as temporary NHL rinks over the years (Thunderdome, Cow Palace, Ottawa Civic Centre, America West Arena), the Colisee is a palace. It has more seats than MTSC and it is more than adequate as a home for the time being. Bottom line, Quebec is totally ready. I don't see the point in pretending they aren't. That was my point, of course they have an adequate temporary facility. But they are not ready because their arena is not done. That does not mean they can not accomodate a team right now, as you have pointed out they easily could temporarily. But, they still need an arena. Maybe they can get a team before the arena is done, but they need an arena started. Maybe they can get a team before an arena is started but they need it to be guaranteed.... you can keep going with this, but the point is right now, as certain as the arena looks, there is nothing concrete. If they get a shovel in the ground, I would say they are 100% ready. I'm not trying to beat this into the ground, and I don't want it to seem I am antagonizing anyone, but has anyone actually stood up and said that they will buy a team?
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Post by jetsfan88 on Mar 2, 2011 13:08:45 GMT -5
QC not ready YET. == not true. 1) Quebecor said they would accept to play in the old building while the new arena is under construction (1 to 4 years) 2) The Colisée needs 4 to 10 millions to make it NHL rdy and it could be done within a few months. 3) Bettman and Daly said a team could play in the old Colisée. Quebec is 100% ready now. btw : OF COURSE WINNIPEG IS FIRST, I don't want to hurt your feelings. The NHL will not commit a franchise there until the arena is well under construction.
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Post by shtinky on Mar 2, 2011 13:29:11 GMT -5
The NHL will not commit a franchise there until the arena is well under construction. Says who? They gave teams to other cities with Go Jets Go arenas that didn't have commitments in place for new ones (Tampa Bay and Phoenix are the most obvious examples... San Jose, Carolina and Ottawa might belong on that list as well)
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Post by shtinky on Mar 2, 2011 13:31:31 GMT -5
That was my point, of course they have an adequate temporary facility. But they are not ready because their arena is not done. That does not mean they can not accomodate a team right now, as you have pointed out they easily could temporarily. But, they still need an arena. Maybe they can get a team before the arena is done, but they need an arena started. Maybe they can get a team before an arena is started but they need it to be guaranteed.... you can keep going with this, but the point is right now, as certain as the arena looks, there is nothing concrete. If they get a shovel in the ground, I would say they are 100% ready. I'm not trying to beat this into the ground, and I don't want it to seem I am antagonizing anyone, but has anyone actually stood up and said that they will buy a team? Quebecor (owners of the Winnipeg Sun, among other things) seems pretty interested: www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Quebecor+puts+cash+Quebec+City+arena/4370170/story.html
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Post by wpgmike on Mar 2, 2011 13:38:01 GMT -5
Has anyone stood up and said they are willing to purchase a team for location in Quebec City? Yes or No?
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Post by dentifrice on Mar 2, 2011 13:42:52 GMT -5
Has anyone stood up and said they are willing to purchase a team for location in Quebec City? Yes or No? YES, many times Quote from him Can be translate by : I think is pretty clear uh ?
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Post by wallyweir on Mar 2, 2011 13:46:20 GMT -5
Bonhomme Carnaval did!
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Post by shtinky on Mar 2, 2011 13:52:44 GMT -5
This guy? ;D
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