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Post by piddy on May 5, 2011 13:37:45 GMT -5
I drove past yesterday, was the first time I had seen the actual location. I thought it was closer to Pembina or some reason. I have concerns regarding the parking and traffic volume through the campus on game days. There's plenty of parking on campus but some of it is a bit of a hike. Also, i I remember correctly there's only 3 routes in or out...University Cres, Bison Dr, and Kings Drive. Heard a rumour that there will be no road upgrades/expansion. If that's the case, it's going to be a gong show trying to get out after a game. And that's different then it is currently at Canad Inns stadium? I live in North Kildonan but I don't mind where the new stadium is being built. Yes, quite a bit different than the current location. In it's current location I can get North, South, East and West on several different routes. At it's current location, I can park within a block or two in all 4 directions and then have a relatively quick out. At the campus location if you're not parking on campus you'll have a pretty long walk to the stadium. If you park on campus you'll only have 3 routes out. Very different. |
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Post by wpgmike on May 5, 2011 13:41:23 GMT -5
Winnipeg has a decent transit system. What is the ETA from downtown to the new stadium? On a gameday?
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Post by piddy on May 5, 2011 13:57:13 GMT -5
Winnipeg has a decent transit system. What is the ETA from downtown to the new stadium? On a gameday? Last time I used it it, decent would be a stretch to describe the transit system here. There was supposed to be a rapid transit route to the U of M which would have made things better, but that seems to have fallen off the radar. On the weekends, without the weekday traffic I'd guess 20-30 minutes. Of course football season coincides with construction season here so depending on which side of Pembina is being re-done...again, the time will vary. |
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Post by shtinky on May 5, 2011 14:01:14 GMT -5
Yes, quite a bit different than the current location. In it's current location I can get North, South, East and West on several different routes. At it's current location, I can park within a block or two in all 4 directions and then have a relatively quick out. At the campus location if you're not parking on campus you'll have a pretty long walk to the stadium. If you park on campus you'll only have 3 routes out. Very different. I agree that the location is not ideal from a traffic management point of view. There are 6,000 parking spaces on campus - let's say another 1,000 get added. I doubt that there are more than 1,000 convenient on-street spaces within walking distance. That's 8,000 spaces total. Assuming people come 2 to a car, that leaves about 17,000 people without convenient parking. Some of those people will have to take the bus, buddy up with people who do have parking spaces, or just park a looooong way away. Not ideal, but I have no doubt it will work - people will just get used to it. Of course, this would be a lot easier to deal with if KATZ had just finished the damn rapid transit route to the U of M. |
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Post by piddy on May 5, 2011 14:13:43 GMT -5
Yes, quite a bit different than the current location. In it's current location I can get North, South, East and West on several different routes. At it's current location, I can park within a block or two in all 4 directions and then have a relatively quick out. At the campus location if you're not parking on campus you'll have a pretty long walk to the stadium. If you park on campus you'll only have 3 routes out. Very different. I agree that the location is not ideal from a traffic management point of view. There are 6,000 parking spaces on campus - let's say another 1,000 get added. I doubt that there are more than 1,000 convenient on-street spaces within walking distance. That's 8,000 spaces total. Assuming people come 2 to a car, that leaves about 17,000 people without convenient parking. Some of those people will have to take the bus, buddy up with people who do have parking spaces, or just park a looooong way away. Not ideal, but I have no doubt it will work - people will just get used to it. Of course, this would be a lot easier to deal with if KATZ had just finished the damn rapid transit route to the U of M. I'll still go and enjoy the new stadium and be happy we have it. Maybe the traffic issue won't be as bad as I think...I hope that's the case. I haven't been on campus in years. If I remember correctly, most of the parking on campus is quite a distance away from the new site. I know there's the large lot across the street and the old "loonie lot" where the soccer complex is, but I imagine these closer spots will be for season ticket holders. Transit would be the way to go, maybe from park and ride spots around the city. The bus will have to deal with the same traffic though and I'm not sure there are dedicated bus routes there. The rapid transit routes would have been good. I guess we'll all see when the time comes. |
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Post by wpgmike on May 5, 2011 14:14:22 GMT -5
WTF? The rapid transit lane to UM was never completed?!?!? That was an ongoing deal last I lived in Winnipeg over SIX YEARS ago!! Man!! I love the city, but it is crap like that, that drove me crazy at times!
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Post by piddy on May 5, 2011 14:51:52 GMT -5
WTF? The rapid transit lane to UM was never completed?!?!? That was an ongoing deal last I lived in Winnipeg over SIX YEARS ago!! Man!! I love the city, but it is crap like that, that drove me crazy at times! Yeah, I believe they abandoned the rapid transit idea and are looking at a light rail system, not too sure on the status of that at this point. |
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Post by wpgmike on May 5, 2011 15:01:46 GMT -5
WTF? The rapid transit lane to UM was never completed?!?!? That was an ongoing deal last I lived in Winnipeg over SIX YEARS ago!! Man!! I love the city, but it is crap like that, that drove me crazy at times! Yeah, I believe they abandoned the rapid transit idea and are looking at a light rail system, not too sure on the status of that at this point. They were debating the pros and cons of both over 7 years ago! Glad to see the progress made. Wow. |
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Post by The Unknown Poster on May 5, 2011 15:06:59 GMT -5
The location is great and will be far better from a traffic perspective than the current location in my opinion.
While there are only three ways out of the new location (with rumours Kings drive could be closed to keep traffic out of residential areas), the exits will allow for quick movement out of the area.
If they manage the lights well, it will be quick and easy down Chancellor Matheson to Pembina. At Pembina, you have three directions to go.
Along University Cred, there are several side streets leading to Pembina. At the end of University cres, you can choose to go Pembina or East/West on Kenaston.
While it might seem to be too few exists, it's the secondary traffic viens (Pembina, Kenaston, Bison etc) that will be key to moving vehicles quickly.
Also, parking likely wont be a big issue. I am certain several businesses in the area (especially bars and pubs) will have parking avail and use of shuttles or increased transit.
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Post by shtinky on May 5, 2011 15:24:18 GMT -5
Also, parking likely wont be a big issue. I am certain several businesses in the area (especially bars and pubs) will have parking avail and use of shuttles or increased transit. Yeah...this will mean killer business for any restaurant or bar on Pembina Highway. Shuttle buses will be in great demand. Of course, the CFL has to stop scheduling 6:30 weekday games here... that timing is absolutely lousy. I can barely make it to the stadium for kickoff, nevermind stopping for beer and wings on the way there. |
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Post by selanne405 on May 5, 2011 15:48:11 GMT -5
Also, parking likely wont be a big issue. I am certain several businesses in the area (especially bars and pubs) will have parking avail and use of shuttles or increased transit. Yeah...this will mean killer business for any restaurant or bar on Pembina Highway. Shuttle buses will be in great demand. Of course, the CFL has to stop scheduling 6:30 weekday games here... that timing is absolutely lousy. I can barely make it to the stadium for kickoff, nevermind stopping for beer and wings on the way there. Ive been thinking all along that this made the most sense, have pre set up shuttles pick up/drop off people at places around pembina so they can just drive there. The manitoba marathon which takes place at the u of m does this and it works great |
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Post by selanne405 on May 5, 2011 15:50:16 GMT -5
Perhaps this is already planned but once the stadium is ready they should bulldoze the current stadium and build a parking lot there
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Post by shtinky on May 5, 2011 15:57:26 GMT -5
Perhaps this is already planned but once the stadium is ready they should bulldoze the current stadium and build a parking lot there Uh, dontcha think that's a little far to be a park-and-ride location? Besides, the government has to sell that land off to help pay for the new stadium! |
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Post by selanne405 on May 5, 2011 17:09:32 GMT -5
Perhaps this is already planned but once the stadium is ready they should bulldoze the current stadium and build a parking lot there Uh, dontcha think that's a little far to be a park-and-ride location? Besides, the government has to sell that land off to help pay for the new stadium! Woops  I meant to say the current U OF M stadium. Yes that would be a bit of a walk, Bomber fans would be the fittest in the league though |
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Post by piddy on May 5, 2011 17:35:08 GMT -5
The location is great and will be far better from a traffic perspective than the current location in my opinion. While there are only three ways out of the new location (with rumours Kings drive could be closed to keep traffic out of residential areas), the exits will allow for quick movement out of the area. If they manage the lights well, it will be quick and easy down Chancellor Matheson to Pembina. At Pembina, you have three directions to go. Along University Cred, there are several side streets leading to Pembina. At the end of University cres, you can choose to go Pembina or East/West on Kenaston. While it might seem to be too few exists, it's the secondary traffic viens (Pembina, Kenaston, Bison etc) that will be key to moving vehicles quickly. Also, parking likely wont be a big issue. I am certain several businesses in the area (especially bars and pubs) will have parking avail and use of shuttles or increased transit. I'll have to disagree with you. I can't see how having only 2, two lane roads in or out (if Kings Drive is closed) will make traffic move better than the current location where I can take Sargent, Ellice, St Matthews, Ness, St James St, Empress etc. The light timing will play a big part. Take a drive up Main or along Portage and tell me if you think the City does that well. It's been a few years since my days as a student at the U of M but I remember quite clearly people walking faster up University Cres than I was going in my car. I think the only way that traffic is not an issue, is if most people don't drive to games. |
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Post by chootem on May 5, 2011 17:41:03 GMT -5
I live in rural Mb,20min north on hwy6, I would much rather drive around the perimeter than go down into the St.James madness on gameday. As far as the walk, I usually park at the Walmart on Empress,as do alot of people....a little walk is not so bad, unless it's a cold playoff game but you should be dressed for it anyway. I plan on putting my bike in the truck on gameday, park at the Superstore ride to the game and lock it up at the stadium.Easy.
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Post by razorsedge on May 10, 2011 17:08:40 GMT -5
Considering there is only 2 home games a month, I don't see why dealing with a bit of traffic hassle is such a big deal. My dad (who lived on Pembina hwy across from the hospital) refused to go to Bomber games because he hated dealing with the traffic around Canad Inns. Maybe it's a Winnipeg thing, i guess.
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Post by CravenMoorhead on May 10, 2011 19:12:59 GMT -5
WTF? The rapid transit lane to UM was never completed?!?!? That was an ongoing deal last I lived in Winnipeg over SIX YEARS ago!! Man!! I love the city, but it is crap like that, that drove me crazy at times! It's all Sam Katz. Glen Murray had the funding in place to start the BRT from downtown to the University in 2004. Unfortunately, Murray decided to run for Member of Parliament. When Katz was elected, one of the first thing he did was cancel the BRT line. Then he flip flopped a few years later, but by that time the City of Winnipeg is shirt on funding to complete it. Way to go, Sammy! |
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Post by CravenMoorhead on May 10, 2011 19:15:02 GMT -5
Considering there is only 2 home games a month, I don't see why dealing with a bit of traffic hassle is such a big deal. My dad (who lived on Pembina hwy across from the hospital) refused to go to Bomber games because he hated dealing with the traffic around Canad Inns. Maybe it's a Winnipeg thing, i guess. Glad to see Edmonton making such progress with the new LRT line. I heard it's almost at 23rd Ave NW. Must be nice to live in a city where things get built. |
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Post by razorsedge on May 10, 2011 21:02:49 GMT -5
Considering there is only 2 home games a month, I don't see why dealing with a bit of traffic hassle is such a big deal. My dad (who lived on Pembina hwy across from the hospital) refused to go to Bomber games because he hated dealing with the traffic around Canad Inns. Maybe it's a Winnipeg thing, i guess. Glad to see Edmonton making such progress with the new LRT line. I heard it's almost at 23rd Ave NW. Must be nice to live in a city where things get built. Concerning things getting built, jury is still out on the new arena. But yes, the LRT line expansion is nice. |
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