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Post by Puckschmuck on Feb 9, 2011 1:03:26 GMT -5
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Post by wt on Feb 9, 2011 5:10:08 GMT -5
Does it state who is paying the 400+million dollar tab? The last I heard the province of Quebec was up for a couple hundred million and private investment of 20 million.
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Post by tim on Feb 9, 2011 7:27:58 GMT -5
Radio-Canada learned that Quebec Mayor Régis Labeaume and Quebec Government give their go-ahead for the construction of the new amphitheatre at Quebec, Thursday. The press conference will be held at the Coliseum in the morning. Prime Minister Jean Charest will be on hand with the Mayor, but any representative of the Harper Government will be. The city would take financial risk with the Government of Quebec, without federal assistance. President and CEO of Quebecor, Pierre Karl Péladeau, who made a "substantial" offering in Québec City, is also present for this important announcement. Amphitheatre at Quebec project is valued at $ 400 million. Details of the funding of future amphitheatre model will be specified in the press conference.
"As long as it is true it opens another door and more options for the NHL. Artical like this should makes it's way to Glendale and Atlanta."
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teamjetskurt
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ahhh pfft Hawerchuk woulda had it!
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Post by teamjetskurt on Feb 9, 2011 9:41:16 GMT -5
This should help their bid for the Olympics!
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Post by krampster on Feb 9, 2011 11:36:23 GMT -5
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Post by wt on Feb 11, 2011 15:24:20 GMT -5
LOL...This is nothing more than a pipe dream if you ask me. Where is this green light again?? .. they don't even know how much the building will cost. I am not even sure if they have a design, beyond the popcicle stick model. Do they even know where this building is suppose to go? This looks like a whole ton of hype and VERY little substance. I am actually embarrassed for them.
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Post by wpgmike on Feb 11, 2011 15:27:12 GMT -5
LOL...This is nothing more than a pipe dream if you ask me. Where is this green light again?? .. they don't even know how much the building will cost. I am not even sure if you have a design. Do they even know where this building is suppose to go? This looks like a whole ton of hype and VERY little substance. I am actually embarrassed for them. I will not entertain these silly questions anymore! We are building an arena somewhere, it will cost money!!! And we will tell the NHL that! No more silly questions!!!
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Post by matrix on Feb 11, 2011 15:55:14 GMT -5
[...] Do they even know where this building is suppose to go? This looks like a whole ton of hype and VERY little substance. I am actually embarrassed for them. answer : any question ?
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Post by jetsorbust on Feb 11, 2011 16:05:14 GMT -5
I posted this in a new thread I started, but it really just relates to what is being discussed here. www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakin....1159 24254.html MONTREAL - The federal government is quashing speculation it might use gas-tax revenues to help cities build hockey arenas. A key cabinet minister shot down the suggestion, floated this week in Ottawa, that federal gas-tax guidelines could be expanded to help fund sports infrastructure. Under the current guidelines, gas-tax money cannot be used to build arenas or other sports facilities. "We have no plans to change that criteria," Infrastructure Minister Chuck Strahl told reporters in Montreal on Friday. "It's quite flexibile. It's not infinitely flexible," he added. That announcement comes one day after Quebec City announced plans to build a new NHL-style arena — with or without federal help. That doesn't mean Ottawa is completely slamming the door on funding the Quebec arena through some other mechanism. A PMO spokesman explained that Strahl's comments in Montreal today apply only to the gax tax. Strahl told reporters that the gas-tax guidelines already provide cities with enough flexibility in how they spend funds. Canadian cities receive about $2 billion annually from the federal gas tax, which helps pay for infrastructure such as roads, bridges and water-treatment plants. "We want it to be used for city needs, and they can set it aside," Strahl said. Meanwhile, there were emerging signs that the arena project may also prove controversial within Quebec. The head of the Action democratique du Quebec issued a scathing statement against the decision to build the arena — whose price tag is estimated at $400 million — entirely with public money. Gerard Deltell, who represents a Quebec City riding in the provincial legislature, accused his fellow politicians of "living in a dream." Meanwhile, there were suggestions in the Quebec media that other municipalities might also start demanding money for their own arena projects. There was also some extremely negative commentary from letter-writers to Montreal's La Presse newspaper Friday, along with a scornful editorial cartoon and an editorial titled, "$200 million badly spent." _____________________________________________________ The fact is, a building doesn't just go up overnight even when the thing is being done by a private firm, let alone if it's all publicly funded. There isn't even a firm engineering plan at this point from what I understand, nor official cost estimates. I'm all for QC getting a team (after Winnipeg does), but I think there are going to be a lot more ups and downs in this saga before they are anywhere near ready to get a team. Chipman and TNSE have been working on their arena / relationship with the NHL for over 8 years now. To the people of Quebec City, I just say don't get your hopes up and at least be patient, because I would be very surprised if anything concrete happened in regards to an NHL franchise in less than 5 years. Once we get our team back, we'll join the fight with you guys! Until then - take some advice from the name of this website --> try to worry about finding an owner, ours has taken almost a decade to develop and we still haven't landed a team yet.
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Post by matrix on Feb 11, 2011 17:08:28 GMT -5
About the gaz-tax idea, it doesn't matter... the mayor said he was not interested at all. It's your opinion, I disagree You guys are close to get a team, not because of the "8 years relationship with the NHL" but because there are many teams struggling in the US right now. The NHL could fix both "mistakes from the past" at the same time... Daly confirmed there are several groups interested to bring a team in Qc City, they already have a relationship with the league, and Quebecor is one of them. Marcel Aubut, (former owner of the Nordiques) said : after a building confirmation (what was done yesterday) everything could come fast. This guy is still working with the NHL and he is very close to the league and Daly is one of his close friend. Here is another optimist guy : watch.ctv.ca/news/#clip416319I'm sure we will have a team in the next 2 or 3 years
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Post by wt on Feb 11, 2011 19:41:30 GMT -5
[...] Do they even know where this building is suppose to go? This looks like a whole ton of hype and VERY little substance. I am actually embarrassed for them. answer : any question ? Ahhhh it going to be built in the land of cubes. Just look at all that detail. I am not familiar with Quebec City, but I am to take this picture to mean they do know where they want to build this government building?
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Post by 14pac03 on Feb 11, 2011 19:43:14 GMT -5
yes we know
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Post by JetsComeHomer on Feb 11, 2011 20:04:20 GMT -5
Sure build an arena, go ahead. The price: $200 million- Non! $300 million- Non! But $400 Million!!! They'll have to rename Quebec City --GLENDALEC CITY. That's a ridiculous amount of money-maybe they'll sell bonds.
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Post by WavyGravy on Feb 11, 2011 20:24:59 GMT -5
I'm so glad we didn't blow $400 mil of taxpayer dollar so some rich prick could own a hockey team in Winnipeg. QC is going about this the wrong way. If an NHL team is so viable in QC why isn't your so called owner putting up the majority of the cash???
edit: that was probably a little harsh... I have no doubt an NHL team is viable in QC. But your owner should be paying for at least 50% of that arena.
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Post by 14pac03 on Feb 11, 2011 20:32:19 GMT -5
private will pay after, on the name, concession of food, beer etc
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Post by CravenMoorhead on Feb 11, 2011 21:07:32 GMT -5
The arena will never get off the ground. If it does, it will be downgraded, or built in 10-15 years.
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Post by 14pac03 on Feb 11, 2011 22:22:31 GMT -5
hahahahahahahaha
are you killing me
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Post by wt on Feb 11, 2011 23:26:31 GMT -5
The arena will never get off the ground. If it does, it will be downgraded, or built in 10-15 years. I agree with you. This deal will never go forward.
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Post by wt on Feb 11, 2011 23:29:17 GMT -5
I'm so glad we didn't blow $400 mil of taxpayer dollar so some rich prick could own a hockey team in Winnipeg. QC is going about this the wrong way. If an NHL team is so viable in QC why isn't your so called owner putting up the majority of the cash??? edit: that was probably a little harsh... I have no doubt an NHL team is viable in QC. But your owner should be paying for at least 50% of that arena. The bottom line is a small market like Quebec City or Winnipeg will require the team ownership retains all revenues derived from the arena. Could any of you imagine if Winnipeg Enterprises were in control of our new building??? Trust me we would not be discussing any return of the NHL.
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Post by wt on Feb 11, 2011 23:44:47 GMT -5
The thing that is preventing the NHL from returning is not just an NHL arena. The new NHL team will need a way to generate $90 million a year and if the team is playing from a government arena I just don't see that being very possible.
The government will need to borrow $400+++ million (who knows - not them) to get this project off the ground. They are not going then turn around and hand it to Bell?? Even if they offer a team free rent, does it make up for the missing revenue from the other events?
This thing is nothing more than a political PR stunt, if there ever was one.
As I said before, I wish them luck, but this deal is so full of holes it has little to no chance of going anywhere.
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