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Post by shtinky on Dec 12, 2010 23:05:38 GMT -5
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Post by hui43210 on Dec 12, 2010 23:06:18 GMT -5
naw
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Post by isoleucine on Dec 12, 2010 23:14:31 GMT -5
Bull.
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Post by Jordy Ramone on Dec 12, 2010 23:55:16 GMT -5
how the Go Jets Go do they get these numbers
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Post by tjg66 on Dec 13, 2010 8:57:12 GMT -5
Thank God, we have Chris and Phil and the Manitoba Myth Busters on our side!!!
Always remember that sometimes stats can be made to support anyones opinions. It's journalism 101!
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Post by shtinky on Dec 13, 2010 9:28:57 GMT -5
Thank God, we have Chris and Phil and the Manitoba Myth Busters on our side!!! Always remember that sometimes stats can be made to support anyones opinions. It's journalism 101! Just because someone comes down on the other side doesn't mean they're out to sabotage Winnipeg. It isn't always a conspiracy. The guy's conclusion is pretty reasonable, when you think about it. He's basically saying that Winnipeg is marginally viable as a NHL market and that it will probably take some government assistance at some point to make it work. (Although that wouldn't be much different from other places. Edmonton is probably going to get a free public funded arena, and as we all know PHX is massively taxpayer supported to the point where Wojtek Wolski and Lee Stempniak are basically employees of the City of Glendale now)
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Post by trigger on Dec 13, 2010 9:42:44 GMT -5
Actually, after reading this what a load of crap. He does not factor in corporate HO that would be big supporters. Also many many other factors. This guy is not up to date and only targeted one stat that is not a factor into the success of teams in Winnipeg and Quebec. He seems bias.
Who do you believe? David Thomson; his team of financial experts and Mark Chipman or an unknown blogger? Maybe someone should actually challenge him with "mythbusters" website and the fact our owners are much smarter than he.
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Post by dlegras on Dec 13, 2010 18:52:42 GMT -5
This article doesn't factor in any other revenue streams that the Chipman family will or has setup. The exhibition hall I'm sure is meant to be part of that extra revenue. We also have to take into account all the money the MTS centre makes off of concerts and other events. The arena is owned, which makes a world of difference when supporting a hockey team.
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Post by flight on Dec 13, 2010 20:18:43 GMT -5
sometimes a larger market isn't always a great thing... many options besides hockey actually hurts markets like Atlanta for example.
Small markets where it becomes an issue of pride can actually be very profitable. The Packers, Roughriders etc. make a tone of money.
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Post by ~Jiffy~ on Dec 20, 2010 19:46:02 GMT -5
I would be happy to see Quebec come back, but I really don't see them getting a team ahead of us. I really hope that journalists are not stupid enough to say Quebec has a better chance, as we all know with a bit of research that isn't true. But I tend to ignore those things.
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Post by Steener25 on Dec 20, 2010 20:39:57 GMT -5
this blogger must be from Hamilton whose first is probably Jim and second name starts with a B
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Post by jetsorbust on Dec 20, 2010 21:54:41 GMT -5
This article doesn't factor in any other revenue streams that the Chipman family will or has setup. The exhibition hall I'm sure is meant to be part of that extra revenue. We also have to take into account all the money the MTS centre makes off of concerts and other events. The arena is owned, which makes a world of difference when supporting a hockey team. I agree with you, except for when you say that "we have to take into account all the money the MTS centre makes off of concerts and other events". That is simply unrelated to hockey and whether or not the NHL would be profitable here. I believe it would be and that TNSE feels this way as well, but I'm sure they don't want to bring a team here so that concert dollars can subsidize a hockey teams' losses.
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Post by 22Neufeld28 on Dec 22, 2010 5:48:53 GMT -5
This article doesn't factor in any other revenue streams that the Chipman family will or has setup. The exhibition hall I'm sure is meant to be part of that extra revenue. We also have to take into account all the money the MTS centre makes off of concerts and other events. The arena is owned, which makes a world of difference when supporting a hockey team. I agree with you, except for when you say that "we have to take into account all the money the MTS centre makes off of concerts and other events". That is simply unrelated to hockey and whether or not the NHL would be profitable here. I believe it would be and that TNSE feels this way as well, but I'm sure they don't want to bring a team here so that concert dollars can subsidize a hockey teams' losses. While we know it may take other revenue streams to make it work.I dont think one can use that to say a team would be making money here.It has to looked @ as a stand alone venture for cap reasons and the value of the team to the NHL. TN could make a 100m profit a year and not report that to the NHL cause thats not part of the plan,and the team could lose 20m on hockey operations,and thats the # the NHL and other owners care about.While TN may not have a prob with it,the NHL/NHLPA sure would cause it would effect their pay and rev sharing. If we start factoring in all the other revenue streams from team owners,That would mean even Phx is a viable market and the NHL has no problems with the right owner in place.
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Post by jjmoohead on Dec 22, 2010 17:51:40 GMT -5
30% of the time, they are right ALL the time!
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