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Post by reddevil on Oct 25, 2010 12:29:24 GMT -5
Now I know this thread is not going to be here for very long, but I think we need JH to step down. He is not moderator material. Don't get me wrong. he has passion for the jets, but is he Moderator material?
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Post by chad77 on Oct 25, 2010 12:36:47 GMT -5
I would love to hear the reason behind this question? Please enlighted us reddevil
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Post by reddevil on Oct 25, 2010 12:38:43 GMT -5
Jhendrix has made great videos, and added input for the Jetsowner cause. However, he is not a good moderator, IMHO. He needs to step down, and let someone more deserving do the honors.
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Post by chad77 on Oct 25, 2010 12:43:46 GMT -5
so a person that just joined and has 2 posts now claims he isnt a good moderator?!?!....still have not said WHY you think this?
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Post by jetsorbust on Oct 25, 2010 12:44:00 GMT -5
Okay... you've raised some points as to why he is a good poster... now explain why he's not a good moderator in your opinion?
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Post by reddevil on Oct 25, 2010 12:48:49 GMT -5
this is why:
How to respond if a forum moderator goes crazy!
As a forum grows, it is highly likely you will need additional help when it comes to moderation. Even if your members are fantastically well behaved, moderators are useful to have as they are a reassuring, visible presence in your community. They help encourage conversations and are a reflection of the care and attention you pay to your site. It is important to choose the right members to become forum moderators.
Unfortunately though, even the best people can turn out to be wholly unsuitable, act inappropriately or get drunk on power.
When forum moderators go bad
Before taking any action at all, you need to consider whether your moderator really has gone bad. Did you issue them with guidelines on what you expect from them before giving them the position? If not, how can they be acting incorrectly if they have not been told how to act in the first place?!?
A rogue forum moderator can do your community untold damage. Every moderator of your site is a reflection of you – your professionalism, your dedication, your commitment. One bad forum moderator can ruin both your reputation and that of your site; therefore, you need to take decisive action when dealing with a rogue moderator.
How should you react?
This all depends on the problem you are having with the staff member in question. If the problem at hand is relatively minor, for example they are deleting/moving/editing threads that you feel should have been left alone, simply speak to your moderator privately and make your concerns clear.
Remain calm, professional, friendly and approachable. Use examples, and explain why you disagree with their actions. Don’t exaggerate, don’t generalise and don’t attack your staff member. Remember – the chances are, they are working for you absolutely free of charge. This in itself demands a certain level of respect from the outset.
The following example email/private message to a moderator is wholly inappropriate and should never be sent:
You keep on deleting loads of threads, and moving every post you don’t like. If you don’t stop doing this, you aren’t going to be a moderator on the site anymore. Either change your ways, or you are gone.
Instead, your message should be something along the following lines:
Hi (Insert Moderator’s Name)
I noticed that you moved the following thread (Insert URL) – may I ask why you felt this was necessary? I also noticed that you deleted posts on the following thread (Insert URL) although I think they were OK to stay . I am a little confused as to why you took action against these threads and posts and would appreciate you taking the time to fill me in on your reasoning.
Thanks!
(Your Name)
The second example ensures a constructive dialogue with your moderator. You have kept to the facts, used examples and explained why you are contacting them. Remember, to get the best out of your forum moderators you need to communicate with them. This includes making them aware of any mistakes you feel they are making. Unless you communicate, your moderator will never learn what is considered acceptable within your community.
How to react if your forum moderator completely loses the plot
Of course, the time may come when a staff member abuses their position to such an extent that more immediate and direct action needs to be taken. I would immediately remove staff logins for any moderators that become abusive or publish any member’s personal information, for example.
Should I need to take such action, the moderator login would immediately be disabled to prevent such behaviour continuing, and a message would be sent to the moderator explaining my actions.
In a future article I will write about the process of firing a forum moderator – although the need to do this shouldn’t come around, if the worst happens you need to do it properly and professionally.
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Post by hui43210 on Oct 25, 2010 12:58:57 GMT -5
I belive Ricky Gervias says it best, " Your talking absoult Go Jets Go!" take a hike nimrod you proably just been banned and came back since you got sand in your pants.
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Post by hui43210 on Oct 25, 2010 13:01:19 GMT -5
this is why: How to respond if a forum moderator goes crazy!As a forum grows, it is highly likely you will need additional help when it comes to moderation. Even if your members are fantastically well behaved, moderators are useful to have as they are a reassuring, visible presence in your community. They help encourage conversations and are a reflection of the care and attention you pay to your site. It is important to choose the right members to become forum moderators. Unfortunately though, even the best people can turn out to be wholly unsuitable, act inappropriately or get drunk on power.When forum moderators go badBefore taking any action at all, you need to consider whether your moderator really has gone bad. Did you issue them with guidelines on what you expect from them before giving them the position? If not, how can they be acting incorrectly if they have not been told how to act in the first place?!? A rogue forum moderator can do your community untold damage. Every moderator of your site is a reflection of you – your professionalism, your dedication, your commitment. One bad forum moderator can ruin both your reputation and that of your site; therefore, you need to take decisive action when dealing with a rogue moderator.How should you react?This all depends on the problem you are having with the staff member in question. If the problem at hand is relatively minor, for example they are deleting/moving/editing threads that you feel should have been left alone, simply speak to your moderator privately and make your concerns clear. Remain calm, professional, friendly and approachable. Use examples, and explain why you disagree with their actions. Don’t exaggerate, don’t generalise and don’t attack your staff member. Remember – the chances are, they are working for you absolutely free of charge. This in itself demands a certain level of respect from the outset. The following example email/private message to a moderator is wholly inappropriate and should never be sent: You keep on deleting loads of threads, and moving every post you don’t like. If you don’t stop doing this, you aren’t going to be a moderator on the site anymore. Either change your ways, or you are gone. Instead, your message should be something along the following lines: Hi (Insert Moderator’s Name) I noticed that you moved the following thread (Insert URL) – may I ask why you felt this was necessary? I also noticed that you deleted posts on the following thread (Insert URL) although I think they were OK to stay . I am a little confused as to why you took action against these threads and posts and would appreciate you taking the time to fill me in on your reasoning. Thanks! (Your Name) The second example ensures a constructive dialogue with your moderator. You have kept to the facts, used examples and explained why you are contacting them. Remember, to get the best out of your forum moderators you need to communicate with them. This includes making them aware of any mistakes you feel they are making. Unless you communicate, your moderator will never learn what is considered acceptable within your community. How to react if your forum moderator completely loses the plotOf course, the time may come when a staff member abuses their position to such an extent that more immediate and direct action needs to be taken. I would immediately remove staff logins for any moderators that become abusive or publish any member’s personal information, for example. Should I need to take such action, the moderator login would immediately be disabled to prevent such behaviour continuing, and a message would be sent to the moderator explaining my actions. In a future article I will write about the process of firing a forum moderator – although the need to do this shouldn’t come around, if the worst happens you need to do it properly and professionally. fyi you still have'nt said why.
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Post by WpgJets2008 on Oct 25, 2010 13:07:31 GMT -5
Even if I believed your sentiment, who else would you rather have? "It's better to have the Devil you do know, than the Devil you don't." Right "RedDevil"? A Rock God with a Fire Fetish or . . . ? Alex was chosen by the site's owner, has proven to be a long-time supporter, has proven to have contacts with people "in the know" and has handled the thankless mod job quite well. Besides, his ability to pound back Red Bulls (mixed of course) and still remain calm is a terrific example of the moderate mindset any moderator should have. Just don't expect him to remain calm when the Grand Announcement Comes Forth! Chris PS> Alex: This is a genius way to get people to ego-stroke you!
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Post by chad77 on Oct 25, 2010 13:19:30 GMT -5
this is why: How to respond if a forum moderator goes crazy!As a forum grows, it is highly likely you will need additional help when it comes to moderation. Even if your members are fantastically well behaved, moderators are useful to have as they are a reassuring, visible presence in your community. They help encourage conversations and are a reflection of the care and attention you pay to your site. It is important to choose the right members to become forum moderators. Unfortunately though, even the best people can turn out to be wholly unsuitable, act inappropriately or get drunk on power.When forum moderators go badBefore taking any action at all, you need to consider whether your moderator really has gone bad. Did you issue them with guidelines on what you expect from them before giving them the position? If not, how can they be acting incorrectly if they have not been told how to act in the first place?!? A rogue forum moderator can do your community untold damage. Every moderator of your site is a reflection of you – your professionalism, your dedication, your commitment. One bad forum moderator can ruin both your reputation and that of your site; therefore, you need to take decisive action when dealing with a rogue moderator.How should you react?This all depends on the problem you are having with the staff member in question. If the problem at hand is relatively minor, for example they are deleting/moving/editing threads that you feel should have been left alone, simply speak to your moderator privately and make your concerns clear. Remain calm, professional, friendly and approachable. Use examples, and explain why you disagree with their actions. Don’t exaggerate, don’t generalise and don’t attack your staff member. Remember – the chances are, they are working for you absolutely free of charge. This in itself demands a certain level of respect from the outset. The following example email/private message to a moderator is wholly inappropriate and should never be sent: You keep on deleting loads of threads, and moving every post you don’t like. If you don’t stop doing this, you aren’t going to be a moderator on the site anymore. Either change your ways, or you are gone. Instead, your message should be something along the following lines: Hi (Insert Moderator’s Name) I noticed that you moved the following thread (Insert URL) – may I ask why you felt this was necessary? I also noticed that you deleted posts on the following thread (Insert URL) although I think they were OK to stay . I am a little confused as to why you took action against these threads and posts and would appreciate you taking the time to fill me in on your reasoning. Thanks! (Your Name) The second example ensures a constructive dialogue with your moderator. You have kept to the facts, used examples and explained why you are contacting them. Remember, to get the best out of your forum moderators you need to communicate with them. This includes making them aware of any mistakes you feel they are making. Unless you communicate, your moderator will never learn what is considered acceptable within your community. How to react if your forum moderator completely loses the plotOf course, the time may come when a staff member abuses their position to such an extent that more immediate and direct action needs to be taken. I would immediately remove staff logins for any moderators that become abusive or publish any member’s personal information, for example. Should I need to take such action, the moderator login would immediately be disabled to prevent such behaviour continuing, and a message would be sent to the moderator explaining my actions. In a future article I will write about the process of firing a forum moderator – although the need to do this shouldn’t come around, if the worst happens you need to do it properly and professionally. fyi you still have'nt said why. Thats what I was thinking hui43210 devil has a nice copy and paste reason??? lol
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Post by winnidog on Oct 25, 2010 15:10:30 GMT -5
What an odd turn of events.
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Post by davebabych on Oct 25, 2010 15:27:22 GMT -5
Is there a specific example of a time Hendrix did something a moderator should not do?
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Post by hui43210 on Oct 25, 2010 16:01:05 GMT -5
Is there a specific example of a time Hendrix did something a moderator should not do? no
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Post by davebabych on Oct 25, 2010 17:10:17 GMT -5
Is there a specific example of a time Hendrix did something a moderator should not do? no That's what I figured, but I was kind of interested in seeing if reddevil actually had a reason for starting this poll.
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Post by hui43210 on Oct 25, 2010 17:26:22 GMT -5
That's what I figured, but I was kind of interested in seeing if reddevil actually had a reason for starting this poll. only reason i can think is he is the next incarnation of jetsengine, and he needs hendrix gone before he can keep trolling.
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Post by Jordy Ramone on Oct 25, 2010 17:29:46 GMT -5
jimi is doing a awesome job
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Post by kingarthur on Oct 25, 2010 17:47:24 GMT -5
this it the only forum i have ever been a member of but i think jimi is doing an excellent job
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Post by jetsfan88 on Oct 25, 2010 18:00:00 GMT -5
I think the poster of this stupid poll should insulted and be subjected to ridicule. I fart in your direction sir b
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Post by selanne405 on Oct 25, 2010 18:08:13 GMT -5
For those of you who joined this site after the summer of 09 I'll enlighten you. Reddevil is likely a former jetsowner great known as J-ZILLA who over a disagreement on a fairly pointless topic quit the site. He was the formerpost king and a former moderator. Zilla and Hendrix were known to argue on a lot of things but Hendrix showed a bit of class and offered help to Zilla in his quest to find a job after he was laid off. Zilla also showed he was fairly eccentric as he often posted pictures of posters' houses on the internet for no apparent reason. If a thread is ever made that is either spam or a blatant attack on myself or Hendrix it is most likely Zilla hiding behind a new account.
Edit: If I'm wrong and its not Zilla a few possible former posters that are hiding behind the name reddevil are, BT, Selannejets and Spezza
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Post by Ric O. on Oct 25, 2010 18:32:44 GMT -5
Doesn't sound like J-zilla or BT unless they've really mellowed...
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