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Post by Guardian on Jul 12, 2010 20:06:27 GMT -5
To a certain degree, politicians have held Wang hostage. But even as the lifelong Long Islander suffers through a process that has become a cruel maze, he has the ability to take immediate control. He can announce tomorrow that he is taking up Jeff Wilpon's offer and is moving the Islanders to a new facility in Queens the moment the lease at the Coliseum expires. The owner can announce that. He does not need approval from the league, which would view an Islanders' move into the five boroughs no differently than the Devils' move from the Meadowlands to Newark. He can re-energize the franchise, and transform it into a destination location. Wang can do that any time he wishes. Unless, of course, he believes that once he takes the Islanders off the Island, moving to Queens is no different than moving to Kansas City or Quebec. If Wang believes that, now is the time to let everyone know. Read more: www.nypost.com/p/sports/islanders/stay_or_go_isles_fans_need_to_know_tjbmsoDTcAKTQjKRXXbMfP/1#ixzz0tWJBGc8nOr Winnipeg? |
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Post by jhendrix70 on Jul 12, 2010 21:07:11 GMT -5
I really do not want the Islanders to move NOR do I belive they will. I'm hoping they are on the current site ( with new Arena ) for the long-term. There are too many other franchises that DO NOT BELONG to be where they are in which we should get. ( And know we will...  |
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Post by hui43210 on Jul 12, 2010 21:09:41 GMT -5
gotta agree, the isle are a real franchise in a real city like pittsburg. phoenix,nashville etc on other hand...
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Post by hockeyguy on Jul 12, 2010 23:32:18 GMT -5
I don't remember exactly but I believe when Bettman was asked about the NYI, Bettman's response was something like the team has a lease until 2012. Does that sound familar to anyone else?
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Post by WJG on Jul 13, 2010 0:30:46 GMT -5
The problem is, I can't see Wang moving the Isles to Canada.
KC or LV maybe, but not Quebec City or Hamilton (obviously Winnipeg isn't an option because of TNSE).
Nonetheless, it sure seems like work is behind done behind the scenes by the NHL to move teams to Winnipeg (TNSE) and Quebec (Quebecor), so maybe he wouldn't have a choice to move them up here anyways.
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Post by bringemback19 on Jul 13, 2010 18:41:32 GMT -5
I'm a Rangers fan, and I would hate seeing the Islanders move.
Fortunately, I don't see the Islanders moving anywhere too far away from where the Coliseum is now. I read somewhere that the Islanders and Rangers have an agreement where the Isles can move anywhere on LI without the Rangers complaining about territory rights.. this includes Brooklyn and Queens, which gives the Isles 2 options (the Barclays Center in Brooklyn which is due to go up soon...hopefully...and the potential site in Queens) if the Lighthouse Project falls through. I will be shocked and saddened if the Islanders wind up moving out of NY entirely, for many reasons (loss of a rival and an easy ticket to a hockey game/KC as the potential site)
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Post by bromine on Jul 14, 2010 0:26:16 GMT -5
Wang hasn't begun to play hardball yet. It's far from over.
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Post by vivianmb on Jul 14, 2010 8:25:30 GMT -5
i grew up in ny, and lived on long island for 20 years.i have been an islanders fan since gillies beat up shultz. wang only bought the team for the real estate. it is transparent.once he is sure the real estate is a no go, he'll sell. ny doesnt need three teams. the rangers are certainly not moving, and the devils just got a new rink. the writing is on the wall. they're gone.i say move em.....to winnipeg. |
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Post by edog37 on Jul 14, 2010 8:35:22 GMT -5
i grew up in ny, and lived on long island for 20 years.i have been an islanders fan since gillies beat up shultz. wang only bought the team for the real estate. it is transparent.once he is sure the real estate is a no go, he'll sell. ny doesnt need three teams. the rangers are certainly not moving, and the devils just got a new rink. the writing is on the wall. they're gone.i say move em.....to winnipeg. the Isles belong in the New York area, period. The Devils could fold tomorrow & no one would care. |
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Post by Hobble on Jul 14, 2010 10:43:44 GMT -5
I think maybe Tavares could be their Crosby, he just needs to pick it up...
They don't have that bad of a team, just poor management and stuff...
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Post by fidelastro on Jul 14, 2010 10:55:45 GMT -5
I agree with most of the posters here. If a team is going to move, I'd much rather see it happen to one of the useless sunbelt teams with zero attendance in a non-hockey market than a team like the Islanders (in a state that can actually get snow!) with a lot of strong history behind it.
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Post by jm440 on Jul 14, 2010 11:13:48 GMT -5
Am beyond caring where the team comes from, just want it here for fall 2011! And Tavares is NO Crosby, or Toews. He's a solid goal scorer and that be all!
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Post by skidooboy on Jul 14, 2010 14:25:08 GMT -5
hehehe Wang. :-)
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Post by mrconfusion87 on Oct 11, 2010 10:44:48 GMT -5
I'm a Rangers fan, and I would hate seeing the Islanders move. Fortunately, I don't see the Islanders moving anywhere too far away from where the Coliseum is now. I read somewhere that the Islanders and Rangers have an agreement where the Isles can move anywhere on LI without the Rangers complaining about territory rights.. this includes Brooklyn and Queens, which gives the Isles 2 options (the Barclays Center in Brooklyn which is due to go up soon...hopefully...and the potential site in Queens) if the Lighthouse Project falls through. I will be shocked and saddened if the Islanders wind up moving out of NY entirely, for many reasons (loss of a rival and an easy ticket to a hockey game/KC as the potential site) Awww... I'm glad the Rangers are nice enough to let their fellow/rival NY-metro team move anywhere in LI, even in Brooklyn and Queens without complaining! I guess they have nothing to fear as NYC's hockey fans are still largely Rangers fans to the core anyway! And I guess they see some competition as a bit of a good thing... ;D |
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Post by Douggy-D on Oct 11, 2010 14:03:37 GMT -5
i grew up in ny, and lived on long island for 20 years.i have been an islanders fan since gillies beat up shultz. wang only bought the team for the real estate. it is transparent.once he is sure the real estate is a no go, he'll sell. ny doesnt need three teams. the rangers are certainly not moving, and the devils just got a new rink. the writing is on the wall. they're gone.i say move em.....to winnipeg. the Isles belong in the New York area, period. The Devils could fold tomorrow & no one would care. When was the last year the Islanders drew more fans than the Devils? Yes there is interest for hockey here the problem is the same as the problem was in Hartford, we're right between NYC and Philly and most of the people in the Southern Half of the State are Flyer fans and some people in Northern NJ are Ranger fans, but still more Devil fans. We have no territory. Our team is 10th in revenue anyway, so the Devils won't move anytime soon anyway. |
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Post by Comrade Fox on Oct 11, 2010 14:06:04 GMT -5
the Isles belong in the New York area, period. The Devils could fold tomorrow & no one would care. When was the last year the Islanders drew more fans than the Devils? Yes there is interest for hockey here the problem is the same as the problem was in Hartford, we're right between NYC and Philly and most of the people in the Southern Half of the State are Flyer fans and some people in Northern NJ are Ranger fans, but still more Devil fans. We have no territory. Our team is 10th in revenue anyway, so the Devils won't move anytime soon anyway. Because your arena is so expensive. I've been there twice. $30 to park = WHAT THE GO JETS GO |
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Post by Douggy-D on Oct 11, 2010 14:56:13 GMT -5
^Still doesn't mean that they're gonna move anytime soon ticket prices are very high too unlike in places like Phoenix and Atlanta.
Average price for a Devils ticket is $110.91
But I think we should agree that the Devils & Islanders should stay where they are with all the history that they've had.
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Post by JimmyMann on Jan 16, 2011 22:59:33 GMT -5
I would like to say that I am posting this here because it seems like the most likely spot for it. As many people have been saying it appears Phoenix is not coming to Winnipeg nor is it Atlanta or an expansion team then think about the following:
1. Phoenix remains in Glendale
2. Atlanta remains in Atlanta
3. NY Islanders begin play in Winnipeg for the 2011-2012 season
Yes this may sound crazy but here are the reasons:
1. Wang appears to want out
2. No local buyers have come forward with capital (remember the Jets)
3. An aging arena with all apparant plans to build a new one in dissarray (see Jets)
4. A team under current CBA not eligible for revenue sharing
5. Attendance issues and a lease which does not include concessions or parking
6. A team that continues to lose money despite being near the CAP floor
7. A market which is already served by several other NHL teams meaning any national TV contract won't be hampered by the Islanders leaving
How will it work:
1. The NHL purchases the team from Mr. Wang
2. TNSE purchses the team from the NHL currently valued at $151 million by Forbes. This is only a guideline for purchase price as there may be a relocation fee.
3. TNSE pays Mr.Wang $$$$ for him to get out of the lease and any shortfall is picked up by Mr. Wang. Considering the amount of money the franchise is losing and will lose until the lease expires in 2015 this is actually a good deal for Mr. Wang
TNSE by buying the franchise from the NHL only receives the team itself and the league retains the Islanders "brand." No franchise history or records become the property of the new team.
By the NHL retaining the Islanders "brand" it allows for the team to be resurected at a time that a new arena is completed somewhere in the NY area and a new ownership team is in place. A new CBA will also be in place by then. Think Cleveland Browns.
I know it sounds crazy but I have been called far worse. Let me know how crazy it is. Just imagine Tavares as the cornerstone of the franchise and proper management teams in place.
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Post by dhildeb1 on Jan 16, 2011 23:23:58 GMT -5
Only drawback: 12 more years of Rick DiPietro.
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Post by jetstar on Jan 17, 2011 0:29:29 GMT -5
I really do not want the Islanders to move NOR do I belive they will. I'm hoping they are on the current site ( with new Arena ) for the long-term. There are too many other franchises that DO NOT BELONG to be where they are in which we should get. ( And know we will... and know we will...  wink wink? |
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wink wink?